Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u32959Es014257 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:05:09 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1amHQU-0002Kk-4O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 10:01:02 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1amHQT-0002Kb-No for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 10:01:01 +0100 Received: from omr-a009e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1amHQR-0004z0-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 10:01:00 +0100 Received: from mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.173]) by omr-a009e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 96B5D380008C for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 05:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from White (ipbcc05f3c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [188.192.95.60]) by mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 9FE8D38000099 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2016 05:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <5699ee15d25b401f9991de9ad5c199ea@kabelmail.de> <56FE6BF0.8020206@posteo.de> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:59:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1459587657; bh=mqWbwOElo1f0ReIe6AoySUYAdTEABdO4BFejcHKyZEU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tFb3qXB/PPayjFySU59nln7jmhAgdXaxFhlVABY2XiPD2sEZXUlbcIk/4Z5IGGlW4 Y0/LycLM/Ad7OmN5Tqsv17B0hGUJlqUUvwMA/+HKVuSusBneBvLVO+/iUUiU/FaRP9 K7ELUYtMu35gdnoeDxghod0r34mR+9YzZ5UWtDAg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32ad56ff8a46492f X-AOL-IP: 188.192.95.60 X-Scan-Signature: 32f0c002d258ce351b2c37fe18ccfa3a Subject: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01D18CCE.CBC063F0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7563 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D18CCE.CBC063F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Uwe, now around 9 UT, the band appears to be much more quiet. Would you like = to make another attempt? BTW Yesterday morning your carrier became invisible on Paul's = spectrogram between 7 and 11 UT. Had you taken the TX off air, or was = there another PSK sequence? Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: DK7FC=20 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 2:39 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Hello Uwe,=20 Could you try to start a message at 7...8 UTC? 4 hours is fine. You know, the QRN... Meanwhile my GPS module NEO-6M arrived here and i got it working. It = consumes 58mA at 3.3V. I'm able to feed the 1pps to SpecLab and correct the soundcard drift + = glitches. But NMEA (an improvement of NIVEA!) could be helpful too, so = this is what i'm trying now. So far without success... 73, Stefan Am 01.04.2016 13:04, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de:=20 Markus, first: the decode is wrong second: same procedure today, start of message 16:00:00 third: pse try the decoder with redundency check (V0.4b) 73 Uwe PS. the carrier is on the air =20 Von: Markus Vester Gesendet: 01.04.2016 12:04 An: Betreff: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz =20 Hi Uwe, unfortunately static level was high, preventing your carriers before = and after the PSK from showing up in my spectrogram. The EbNaut decoder = produced "GL" at rank 13429 and -1 dB Eb/N0, but I have no clue whether = this message is really correct. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 9:23 pm Betreff: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz =20 Thanks Uwe. The late evening may not be ideal in terms of QRN = background but let's try anyway. I have pushed out the antenna again = (half height due to wind), and restarted the VLF grabbers with EbNaut = recording since19 UT. 8270.000 is still within EbNaut's bandwidth = (+-1/40 Hz) of your QRG so I hope that my new VLF neighbour Roland won't = fire up tonight. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: uwe-jannsen An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 6:38 pm Betreff: AW: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz =20 the carrier is on the air.=20 there will be a special message for Markus: start 22:00:00 coding 8K19A CRC 16 period 40 length 2 duration 04:05:20:00 Have fun Uwe/dj8wx PS. rain would stop the transmission automatically. =20 Von: Markus Vester Gesendet: 24.03.2016 00:00 An: Betreff: VLF: 8270 March 22 =20 Yesterday afternoon the noise was fairly moderate, and around 18 UT I = caught a good dash in 63 uHz, presumably from DJ8WX. I then attempted = simulated EbNaut decodes on the carrier, using 1 and 2 character = settings and 40 s symbols. Both resulted in valid asterisk messages, = with some more margin to spare for the single character. So far I have = never decoded a real message on VLF, and I'd be keen to try... Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D18CCE.CBC063F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Uwe,
 
now around 9 UT, the band appears = to be much=20 more quiet. Would you like to make another attempt?
 
BTW Yesterday morning your carrier became invisible on Paul's = spectrogram=20 between 7 and 11 UT. Had you taken the TX off air, or was there = another PSK=20 sequence?
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

From: DK7FC
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz

Hello = Uwe,=20

Could you try to start a message at 7...8 UTC? 4 hours is = fine.
You=20 know, the QRN...

Meanwhile my GPS module NEO-6M arrived here and = i got it=20 working. It consumes 58mA at 3.3V.
I'm able to feed the 1pps to = SpecLab and=20 correct the soundcard drift + glitches. But NMEA (an improvement of = NIVEA!)=20 could be helpful too, so this is what i'm trying now. So far without=20 success...

73, Stefan

Am 01.04.2016 13:04, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de:=20
Markus,
first:      =20   the decode is wrong
second: same procedure today, start of = message=20 16:00:00
third:       pse try the = decoder=20 with redundency check (V0.4b)

73
Uwe
PS. the carrier is = on the=20 air

 =20 Von: = Markus=20 Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
= Gesendet:=20 01.04.2016 12:04
An: = <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org>
Betreff: Re:=20 VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz =20
Hi Uwe,
 
unfortunately static level was=20 high, preventing your carriers before and after the PSK from = showing=20 up in my spectrogram. The EbNaut decoder produced "GL" at = rank 13429=20 and -1 dB Eb/N0, but I have no clue whether this message is=20 really correct.
 
Best 73,
Markus
 
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche = Mitteilung-----
Von:=20 Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
= An:=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org>
Verschickt:=20 Do, 31 Mrz 2016 9:23 pm
Betreff: Re: VLF: 8270: now=20 8269.990Hz
 =20
Thanks Uwe.=20 The late evening may not be ideal in terms of QRN = background=20 but let's try anyway. I have pushed out the antenna again (half height = due to=20 wind), and restarted the VLF grabbers with EbNaut recording since19=20 UT. 8270.000 is still within EbNaut's bandwidth (+-1/40 Hz)=20 of your QRG so I hope that my new VLF neighbour Roland won't = fire up=20 tonight.
All the best,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche=20 Mitteilung-----
Von: uwe-jannsen <uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de>
An: = rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschic= kt: Do,=20 31 Mrz 2016 6:38 pm
Betreff: AW: VLF: 8270: now = 8269.990Hz
 =20
the carrier is on the air.
there will=20 be a special message for Markus:
start 22:00:00
coding 8K19A
CRC 16
period 40
length 2
duration 04:05:20:00
Have fun
Uwe/dj8wx

PS. rain would stop the transmission=20 automatically.


  Von: = Markus=20 Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
Gesendet:=20 24.03.2016 00:00
An: = <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Betreff: VLF:=20 8270 March 22
 
 
Yesterday afternoon the = noise was=20 fairly moderate, and around 18 UT I caught a good dash in 63 uHz, = presumably from DJ8WX. I then attempted simulated EbNaut decodes on = the=20 carrier, using 1 and 2 character settings and 40 s symbols. Both = resulted in=20 valid asterisk messages, with some more margin to spare for the single = character. So far I have never decoded a real message on VLF, and = I'd be=20 keen to try...
 
Best = 73,
Markus = (DF6NM)
 
 
 
 

 
    
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