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Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:09:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE
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Yes, I agree with you Mal, and that's why I sent the 'no thanks' message =
after Roger outlined the "advantages"....and it's got even worse now =
someone has suggested vetting group members!
Chris, G4AYT.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal hamilton=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE


  A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!!!!!! and if you have an =
opinion that differs from others you should be BANNED.
  No discussion, no debate in other words a DICTORSHIP, hardly =
democratic.
  What next ???????????
  I can manage without any of it and get on with amateur radio and =
experimentation. These past few days without the reflector has not =
hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by =
others !!
  Do what you like but leave me OUT
  G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Alberto di Bene=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE


    On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20
      Why not go for it and start it yourself.
      We know some will not move so it will be an additional facility. =
Please make sure it is has no taboo, f
      frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no childish =
sulking.
    Another suggestion is to not make it an open group, meaning that =
each request for membership should be
    accompanied by a very short introductory message explaining why that =
membership is requested.
    Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether to accept it =
or not.  I suppose the same is done
    presently with the Majordomo mailer.

    And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up to a =
point... then the moderator can accept the individual,
    but putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message =
from him must be examined by the moderator(s)
    before being published.  The moderation status can be removed after =
a couple of legitimate messages from the guy,
    showing that he is not a troll or spammer.

    I use this method on my soft_radio  Yahoo group  =20
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/
    with more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a =
couple of cases where a spam message=20
    got through in more than 8 years of the existence of that group.

    73  Alberto  I2PHD


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Yes, I agree with you Mal, and that's =
why I sent=20
the 'no thanks' message after Roger outlined the "advantages"....and =
it's got=20
even worse now someone has suggested vetting group members!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT.</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net =
href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal=20
  hamilton</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 24, 2012 =
8:17=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: An =
"LF-reflector" Yahoo=20
  group instead .....PLEASE</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor =
!!!!!!!!!! and if=20
  you have an opinion that differs from others you should be=20
BANNED.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No discussion, no debate in other words a =
DICTORSHIP,=20
  hardly democratic.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What next ???????????</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can manage without any of it and get on with =
amateur=20
  radio and experimentation. These past few days without the reflector =
has not=20
  hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by =
others=20
  !!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Do what you like but leave me OUT</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Ddibene@usa.net href=3D"mailto:dibene@usa.net">Alberto di =
Bene</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 24, 2012 =
5:17=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: An =
"LF-reflector"=20
    Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:4FBE62F1.9020203@psk31.plus.com =
type=3D"cite"><I>Why=20
      not go for it and start it yourself.<BR>We know some will not move =
so it=20
      will be an additional facility. Please make sure it is has no =
taboo,=20
      f<BR>frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no =
childish=20
      sulking.</I></BLOCKQUOTE>Another suggestion is to not make it an =
open group,=20
    meaning that each request for membership should be<BR>accompanied by =
a very=20
    short introductory message explaining why that membership is=20
    requested.<BR>Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether =
to=20
    accept it or not.&nbsp; I suppose the same is done<BR>presently with =
the=20
    Majordomo mailer.<BR><BR>And, if that introductory message is =
convincing,=20
    but up to a point... then the moderator can accept the =
individual,<BR>but=20
    putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message from =
him must=20
    be examined by the moderator(s)<BR>before being published.&nbsp; The =

    moderation status can be removed after a couple of legitimate =
messages from=20
    the guy,<BR>showing that he is not a troll or spammer.<BR><BR>I use =
this=20
    method on my soft_radio&nbsp; Yahoo group&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><A=20
    class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext=20
    =
href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/">http://groups.yahoo.co=
m/group/soft_radio/</A><BR>with=20
    more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a =
couple of=20
    cases where a spam message <BR>got through in more than 8 years of =
the=20
    existence of that group.<BR><BR>73&nbsp; Alberto&nbsp;=20
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