Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uARFrJMm002323 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 16:53:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cB1hs-0000Bo-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:49:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cB1hr-0000Bf-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:49:31 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.135.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cB1ho-00056S-CH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:49:30 +0000 Received: from malcoHP ([79.69.139.43]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id B1hmcLYO3cpskB1hmcRTZ2; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:49:26 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=talktalk.net Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=talktalk.net; s=1605; t=1480261766; bh=uqhnbZTEbFiR4OGPh3eDfB1n1E+3Izrgl0bYiZRmiVc=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=s4YetD/ohYRzfRYwSZGZAXsgp/CKzHc6nDSQjpODq00Xmv+KbAclSHxToTzz8t0Dq u3hxKfV72pBWCdumBB6VzKsZuOAKLPOGh7l00oywij8mxcRQ373/2quZmwqAMV8mE8 NXChGn/1IozGt5SmDJ7DAai7UD68wGPyLi8S1hX4= X-Originating-IP: [79.69.139.43] X-Spam: 0 X-OAuthority: v=2.2 cv=ILRAMUnG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xewto85gXl5KEUA5IHIffg==:117 a=xewto85gXl5KEUA5IHIffg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=DRDkxoqtU-xS6U3KufEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=slCku8JSH3TyizEDQ3pD:22 a=wQf5WvvPLwzY6UdiLRIz:22 Message-ID: From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <635074543.20161125135600@chriswilson.tv> <9FCDDE00-7831-485E-9CAF-D15E3522A7B9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9FCDDE00-7831-485E-9CAF-D15E3522A7B9@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:49:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEE8Ku67PVfFyixW3G5UWLCzByTZhZKKoSkNpm83Fd/Y4pZ4i+g2ONIZCm70/81hx3b/u8mF33XxCsaESTpoIBomtfMWx1WYOwR53Yf3PKOEHFnspsDc veugb6gudvaWl1oMvmAxbLtAVOqRcm3jRvlWvxKa7Og7KJtdiBpyHukI X-Scan-Signature: 1708620d3ce65bee0beaaede7929769a Subject: LF: Re: H Bridge power MOSFET based amps question Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 1725 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9579 John I always used SQUARE WAVE to drive my class D es E amps. The Decca 5501 modules input is Sine or Sq wave, the input cct shapes the sine wave to Sq de mal/g3kev -----Original Message----- From: John Rabson Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:28 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: H Bridge power MOSFET based amps question My experiences with class E single ended amplifiers is similar to that reported by Mal. The only caveat I would add is that you should be quite sure that you have the right driving waveform. During my early experiments with a design based on G3NYK’s spreadsheet I tried a sine wave rather than the square wave it should have had. The result was lower efficiency and a short life for the FET. John F5VLF > On 26 Nov 2016, at 11:35, mal hamilton wrote: > > Chris > The Decca 5501 amp modules use a H bridge class D configuration followed > by a series resonant PA circuit and this is probably one of the most > reliable amplifiers about. Use suitable rated FET'S to give the desired RF > output. > Also the protection cct used avoids disaster in the event of an antenna > failure short/open cct, > I have built lots of class D 1Kw push pull amps over the years for LF/MF > but they are vunerable to damage with load variations whereas the Decca > bridge amps survive. I never had a failure with the Decca, and have been > using them for many years. > Another approach which is worth a consideration is the class E amp single > ended, these are very reliable and avoids the crossover switching problems > with the push pull system. Setting up procedure is critical but there > after very stable, > Hope these observations help you