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Content preview: Ok Bob All the Opera qrg's are set as 'Dial set USB' The speed change , changes the mid audio pass band of the decoder , but the RX [ and TX ] Dial set remains the same [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 310131a5e532565f108a820138314750 Subject: Re: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01CEBAEC.D8818C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2554 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CEBAEC.D8818C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Bob All the Opera qrg's are set as 'Dial set USB' =20 The speed change , changes the mid audio pass band of the = decoder , but the RX [ and TX ] Dial set remains the same =20 In this case , If Markus is trying to detect your signal with = correlation , it may be better to use the exciter in CW mode = and pick a qrg inside the Op65 pass band ...that means any = other station , simply sets 73 K usb op65 ..... using audio = drive the system places the carrier in the lowest s/n 'slot' = and checks at each tx-rx-tx change over , not a problem for = the Op decoder that can track round 32 signals in the pass = band , is not ideal for correlation ! 73 -G, =20 From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:51 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON Markus; I am following Graham's [G0NBD] instruction to move higher. He said set = upper sideband exciter to 73.000 and should be on 74.44-5 am not sure if = actual transmit freq is 74.4 or if tone is 1500 hz so would put me at = 74.5. Have to get confirm of this from G. Graham you read this e mail? Where should receiver be set for receive = window? Bob =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: markusvester@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:20:22 -0400 Subject: Re: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON Hi Bob, I'd be interested to set something up to catch Op-65 on 73 kHz. But I = need to know your actual RF frequency (not dial) - presumably not the = same 72.401 kHz as for QRSS?=20 Not sure whether pseudorandom noise sidebands from the time-signal = station DCF77 will be a problem here. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM in JN59NJ) -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Graham An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 26 Sept 2013 2:14 pm Betreff: Re: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON Recovered from the psk-map=20 =20 Substantial signal levels ! Op65 ~ -43 dB s/n , , thats = +13 and 18 dB over the limit , range about 220 miles ? 20 = watts would do !=20 =20 73-G,=20 =20 =20 -30 OPERA 0.073 26/09/2013 00:26 United States 1380155160 WG2XRS = W3NFFM19MH RXOp65 291=20 -25 OPERA 0.073 26/09/2013 01:32 United States 1380159162 WG2XRS = W3NFFM19MH RXOp65 291=20 =20 =20 ... ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CEBAEC.D8818C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Bob
 
All  the  Opera   =20 qrg's   are   set  as   = 'Dial  =20 set  USB' 
 
The  speed  change   , = changes=20 the  mid audio  pass  band  of the  = decoder  , but=20 the  RX [ and TX ]   Dial  set  remains  = the =20 same 
 
In  this  case  , If  = Markus =20 is  trying  to  detect  your  signal  = with =20 correlation , it  may  be  better  to  = use =20 the  exciter  in CW mode  and  pick a  =20 qrg   inside the  Op65  pass  band  = ...that=20 means   any  other  station , simply  = sets  73 K=20 usb  op65  .....  using  audio  = drive =20 the  system  places  the  carrier  in the  = lowest    s/n  'slot'   and =20 checks  at  each   tx-rx-tx  change  = over  ,=20 not  a problem  for the   Op decoder  = that =20 can  track  round   32 signals  in the  = pass =20 band  ,  is not  ideal  for  correlation =20 !
 
73 -G,  

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW = ON

Markus;
I am following Graham's [G0NBD] instruction to = move=20 higher.  He said set upper sideband exciter to 73.000 and = should be on=20 74.44-5 am not sure if actual transmit freq is 74.4 or if tone is 1500 = hz so=20 would put me at 74.5.  Have to get confirm of this from = G.
Graham you=20 read this e mail?  Where should receiver be set for receive window? = Bob
 
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
From:=20 markusvester@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:20:22 = -0400
Subject: Re:=20 LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON

Hi Bob,
 
I'd be = interested=20 to set something up to catch Op-65 on 73 kHz. But I need to=20 know your actual RF frequency (not dial) - presumably not = the=20 same 72.401 kHz as for QRSS?
 
Not = sure=20 whether pseudorandom noise sidebands from the time-signal station=20 DCF77 will be a problem here.

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM in JN59NJ)
 
-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 26 Sept 2013 = 2:14=20 pm
Betreff: Re: LF: Opera OP65 WG2XRS/4 73KHz NOW ON


Recovered from the  psk-map 

 

Substantial   signal  levels  !     Op65  ~  -43 dB  s/n  ,  , thats   =
+13  and  18 dB  over the  limit  ,  range about  220  miles  ?  20  =
watts  would  do  ! 

 

73-G, 

 

 

-30	OPERA	0.073	26/09/2013 00:26	United States	1380155160	WG2XRS		=
W3NFFM19MH	RXOp65	291 



-25	OPERA	0.073	26/09/2013 01:32	United States	1380159162	WG2XRS		=
W3NFFM19MH	RXOp65	291 

 

  

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