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There is a time and a place for both QRO and QRP.

   - QRO is useful to "extend possibilities" by exploiting new modes of
   propagation or when lower power simply wouldn't be enough e.g. moon bou=
nce
   on UHF, scatter modes on microwaves, or frontier DX work on 8.97kHz.
   - QRP time and again proves to me that, in very many situations, high
   power is both a waste of time and energy. On HF a few watts (even handh=
eld)
   is enough to work the world on SSB as well as CW, even in sunspot minim=
um
   years. It just takes a little more effort and skill both on the part of=
 the
   TXing station and on the RXing station. On MF last winter 1mW ERP was=
 enough
   to achieve far more than I could have wished for and I appreciated the
   efforts made by many to detect my weak signals, including Mal working=
 me on
   CW.

QRP is a personal choice and it has been my personal interest for most of=
 my
ham operating life: it is fun, gear is simple and inexpensive to make, TVI
is never an issue and energy requirements are minimal. It is not for
everyone and I respect that, but I do commend it.

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 1 June 2010 12:15, g3zjo <g3zjo@npton.plus.com> wrote:

>   >Absolutely CORRECT Mal, I totally agree.
>
> >Chris, G4AYT.
>
>
>
>             I don=92t want to join in with any tit for tat stuff, please
> don=92t lets go there.
>
>
>
> Mal has very good antennas I am sure he can receive my 500kHz QRPp signa=
l
> although he has never admitted it.
>
> Lee M0LMH, the Bloodhound, certainly can at 194km 120miles under flat
> conditions; he can also set up a Grabber and display my signal.
>
>
>
> So lets draw a circle 120miles radius from IO92ng. Any station within th=
at
> circle should be able to receive my signal too, given a not too fantasti=
c
> set up, I think Lee has described his set up in that way. If they can=92=
t,
> then their Receiver or Antenna could be improved and also enable them to
> receive signals from, say the Czech Republic.
>
>
>
> Would me increasing my power until I can be seen on the Broad Band Grabb=
ers
> improve the performance of their set up, because now they would most lik=
ely
> receive me. Or does QRO cover for mediocre RX and Antennas.
>
>
>
> A stupid question but no worse than some of the prior =91Stupid Criminal=
s=92
> posts.
>
>
>
> Eddie G3ZJO
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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There is a time and a place for both QRO and QRP.<br><ul><li>QRO is useful=
 to &quot;extend possibilities&quot; by exploiting new modes of propagatio=
n or when lower power simply wouldn&#39;t be enough e.g. moon bounce on UH=
F, scatter modes on microwaves, or frontier DX work on 8.97kHz. <br>
</li><li>QRP time and again proves to me that, in very many situations, hi=
gh power is both a waste of time and energy. On HF a few watts (even handh=
eld) is enough to work the world on SSB as well as CW, even in sunspot min=
imum years. It just takes a little more effort and skill both on the part=
 of the TXing station and on the RXing station. On MF last winter 1mW ERP=
 was enough to achieve far more than I could have wished for and I appreci=
ated the efforts made by many to detect my weak signals, including Mal wor=
king me on CW.<br>
</li></ul>QRP is a personal choice and it has been my personal interest fo=
r most of my ham operating life: it is fun, gear is simple and inexpensive=
 to make, TVI is never an issue and energy requirements are minimal. It is=
 not for everyone and I respect that, but I do commend it.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1 June 201=
0 12:15, g3zjo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3zjo@npton.plus.co=
m">g3zjo@npton.plus.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">













<div bgcolor=3D"white" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB">

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<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">&gt;</span></font><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Absolutely
CORRECT Mal, I totally agree.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">&gt;</span></font><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Chris,
G4AYT.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></=
font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I
don=92t want to join in with any tit for tat stuff, please don=92t lets
go there.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></=
font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">Mal has
very good antennas I am sure he can receive my 500kHz QRPp signal although=
 he
has never admitted it.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">Lee M0LMH,
the Bloodhound, certainly can at 194km 120miles under flat conditions; he=
 can
also set up a Grabber and display my signal.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">So lets
draw a circle 120miles radius from IO92ng. Any station within that circle
should be able to receive my signal too, given a not too fantastic set up,=
 I
think Lee has described his set up in that way. If they can=92t, then thei=
r
Receiver or Antenna could be improved and also enable them to receive sign=
als from,
say the </span></font><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Czech</span><=
/font><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><font color=3D=
"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: Arial; color: navy;">Republic</span></font><font color=3D"navy" face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;=
 color: navy;">.</span></font></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">Would me
increasing my power until I can be seen on the Broad Band Grabbers improve=
 the performance
of their set up, because now they would most likely receive me. Or does QR=
O
cover for mediocre RX and Antennas.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">A stupid
question but no worse than some of the prior =91Stupid Criminals=92
posts.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">Eddie</span></font><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"=
 size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: nav=
y;"> G3ZJO </span></font></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 36pt;"><font color=3D"navy"=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Ar=
ial; color: navy;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span></font></p>

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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://g3xb=
m-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.yo=
utube.com/user/g3xbm">http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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