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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Laurence, I'd be interested to see whether XPQ could be detected in a microHz spectrogram here, either on Chris' grabber in Bucharest http://qsl.net/4x1rf/yo/lfgrabber.htm or mine in Nuernberg. Can you give your exact frequency, and could you transmit a stable uninterrupted carrier for a couple of hours? We've been seeing narrow traces from US East coast stations before, but I wonder how much effect transpolar Doppler could have. 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Can you give your exact frequency, and could you = transmit a stable uninterrupted carrier for a couple of hours? We've = been seeing narrow traces from US East coast stations before, but I = wonder how much effect transpolar Doppler could have. Is DCF-39 really as strong as 25 dB in 100 Hz, ie. 45 dB/Hz, or would = that be in 0.1 Hz? What are the best hours? Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Laurence KL7UK=20 Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 4:21 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DCF39 appears Nice to see DCF39 appearing on QRSS this evening over the Pole. Ive not = seen it since Spring here in Alaska. About 25dB noise in 100Hz (ish = units). Not dark yet either, Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla AK From: Laurence KL7UK=20 Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 2:17 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20 Subject: LF: XPQ Further testing on 137.7752 ish carrier only ongoing - still in = shakedown mode but sweeps of individual 400w Modules show the same = resonance and output parameters from 2005 :-) http://kl7uk.com/XPQ2.jpg Set up in garage. Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Alaska From: Laurence KL7UK=20 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:34 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20 Subject: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752 A little bit of Nostalgia - WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska is very intermittently = testing on 137.7752 DFCW various speeds and the odd bit of QRSS - Power = will be up to 2W ERP but is to be confirmed.=20 =20 Periods of operations, modes and powers will vary as Im trying to = remember all the ins and outs of why I installed 'X" relay to do a "Y" = function as its been 7 years or so. =20 Transmitter for the moment is the Decca 5501, drivers are FT817 h/b = transverter, Loop with around 100m circumference at 50ft or so and phase = meter. The Birch trees bend a lot more than the OKie Cottonwoods so not = sure how much detuning will happen as thing become more slack or as the = trees become snow laden -=20 =20 Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51IP ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CD8936.E8B30CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence,
 
I'd be interested to see whether XPQ could be=20 detected in a microHz spectrogram here, either on Chris' grabber=20 in Bucharest
http://qsl.net/4x1rf/yo/lf= grabber.htm
or mine in Nuernberg. Can you = give your exact=20 frequency, and could you transmit a stable uninterrupted carrier for a = couple of=20 hours? We've been seeing narrow traces from US East coast = stations=20 before, but I wonder how much effect transpolar Doppler = could=20 have.
 
Is DCF-39 really as strong as 25 dB in 100=20 Hz, ie. 45 dB/Hz, or would that be in 0.1 Hz? What are = the best=20 hours?
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Laurence KL7UK
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 4:21 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: DCF39 appears

Nice to see DCF39 appearing on QRSS this evening over the = Pole. Ive=20 not seen it since Spring here in Alaska. About 25dB noise in 100Hz (ish = units).=20 Not dark yet either,

Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla AK
From: Laurence=20 KL7UK
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 2:17 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 ; lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20
Subject: LF: XPQ

Further testing on 137.7752 ish carrier only ongoing - = still in=20 shakedown mode but sweeps of individual 400w Modules show the same = resonance and=20 output parameters from 2005 :-)

http://kl7uk.com/XPQ2.jpg

Set= =20 up in garage.

Laurence We2xpq  KL1X Wasilla Alaska

From: Laurence=20 KL7UK
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:34 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 ; lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20
Subject: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752


A little bit of Nostalgia - WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska is = very=20 intermittently testing on 137.7752 DFCW various speeds and the odd = bit of=20 QRSS - Power will be up to 2W ERP but is to be confirmed.=20
 
Periods of operations, modes and powers will vary as Im = trying to=20 remember all the ins and outs of why I installed 'X" relay to do a "Y" = function=20 as its been 7 years or so.
 
Transmitter for the = moment is the=20 Decca 5501, drivers are FT817 h/b transverter, Loop with around 100m=20 circumference at 50ft or so and phase meter. The Birch trees bend a lot = more=20 than the OKie Cottonwoods so not sure how much detuning will happen = as=20 thing become more slack or as the trees become snow laden -=20
 
Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska=20 BP51IP
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