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Content preview: Eddie, You forgot the soil Ph. 73, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: g3zjo To: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR [...] Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.74.100.55 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 3d5b8cd6516ff44ac46de53952029be0 Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CE2260.5E22D930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb5144996c5083 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CE2260.5E22D930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eddie, You forgot the soil Ph. 73, Gary. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR Hi G Decided I would go measure the ant, rather than quote what it was = going to be. (Would I lie to you baby).=20 10W RF Ant. Marconi inv. L. Vertical section 3.5m - Top section single wire = 7m long. Absorption Factors:- Metal core clothes line 400mm from Loading coil, 400mm from vertical = wire. 9m steel mast with VHF antennas 2.5m from feed point. 6m ally mast with 4m antenna & TV ant. 2.2m from feed point House and wiring 2.5m from feed point 40m Doublet and feeder 2.2m from feed point=20 8x6 aluminium greenhouse under Top Wire far end Top Wire crosses 40m Doublet wire 200mm from its end 100mm vertical = clearance. Top Wire ends 100mm from 6.3m steel mast 6.3 steel mast emerges from top of plum tree 5m tall. Holly tree 5.5m tall 5m from end of Top Wire Active antennas horizontally 5m from Top Wire 7/8 28MHz vertical 7m horizontal from Top Wire Surrounded by Houses with overhead mains electricity feeds on 3 sides. Can I sat it was shoe horned in. If you can work out a loss figure I would appreciate it. 73 Ed On 16/03/2013 11:18, Graham wrote:=20 What is the feed power //Ae lay out Ed ? G.. From: g3zjo=20 Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:45 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR On closer examination, the night before produced an extra 20Km. 2013-03-15 03:52 G3ZJO 0.475638 -27 0 = IO92ng +7 0.005 OH6JKN KP22xk 1944 1208 My garden fence gets further away, don't ever be foolish enough to = decry small antennas and QRP operation. Don't decry give it a try. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 16/03/2013 09:57, g3zjo wrote:=20 LF / MF After complaining about the poor conditions last night, the = overnight results were better. I had several reports form PA1GSJ who has not previously decoded = me. Also a new best for me, getting near to that 2000Km mark. 2013-03-16 01:22 G3ZJO 0.475629 -27 0 = IO92ng +7 0.005 OH5YW KP30ju 1924 1196=20 73 Eddie G3ZJO ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CE2260.5E22D930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eddie,
 
You forgot the soil Ph.
 
73, Gary.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 g3zjo=20
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 = 3:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on = 474KHz=20 WSPR

Hi G

Decided I would go measure the ant, rather = than=20 quote what it was going to be. (Would I lie to you baby).

10W=20 RF
Ant. Marconi inv. L. Vertical section 3.5m -  Top section = single=20 wire 7m long.

Absorption Factors:-
Metal core clothes line = 400mm=20 from Loading coil, 400mm from vertical wire.
9m steel mast with VHF = antennas 2.5m from feed point.
6m ally mast with 4m antenna & = TV ant.=20 2.2m from feed point
House and wiring 2.5m from feed point
40m = Doublet=20 and feeder 2.2m from feed point
8x6 aluminium greenhouse under Top = Wire=20 far end
Top Wire crosses 40m Doublet wire 200mm from its end 100mm = vertical=20 clearance.
Top Wire ends 100mm from 6.3m steel mast
6.3 steel = mast=20 emerges from top of plum tree 5m tall.
Holly tree 5.5m tall 5m from = end of=20 Top Wire
Active antennas horizontally 5m from Top Wire
7/8 28MHz = vertical 7m horizontal from Top Wire
Surrounded by Houses with = overhead=20 mains electricity feeds on 3 sides.

Can I sat it was shoe = horned=20 in.
If you can work out a loss figure I would appreciate = it.

73=20 Ed

On 16/03/2013 11:18, Graham wrote:=20
    What is the  feed  power = //Ae =20 lay out  Ed ?
 
G..

From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz = WSPR

On closer examination, the night before produced an = extra=20 20Km.

2013-03-15 03:52      G3ZJO=20      0.475638      -27=20      0      IO92ng=20      +7      0.005=20      OH6JKN      KP22xk=20      1944     =  1208

My=20 garden fence gets further away, don't ever be foolish enough to = decry small=20 antennas and QRP operation. Don't decry give it a try.

73 = Eddie=20 G3ZJO

On 16/03/2013 09:57, g3zjo wrote:=20
LF /=20 MF

After complaining about the poor conditions last night, = the=20 overnight results were better.

I had several reports form = PA1GSJ=20 who has not previously decoded me. Also a new best for me, getting = near to=20 that 2000Km mark.

 2013-03-16 01:22 =    =20  G3ZJO      0.475629     =  -27=20      0      IO92ng=20      +7      0.005=20      OH5YW      KP30ju=20      1924      1196 =

73=20 Eddie = G3ZJO


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