Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t37NiGQ5000970 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 01:44:16 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Yfd73-0001b0-Tf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:40:57 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Yfd73-0001ar-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:40:57 +0100 Received: from rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.183]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Yfd71-00010Y-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:40:56 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.149.134.136(GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090203.55246B06.003A,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=39/50,refid=2.7.2:2015.3.30.162421:17:39.532,ip=86.149.134.136,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __HAS_HTML, HTML_NO_HTTP, BODY_SIZE_4000_4999, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[136.134.149.86.fur], BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (86.149.134.136) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 551516140153B6FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 00:40:54 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1428450055; bh=cK5dmCM5+gWq6a8XRRUvhy7PqjmFmRNbhtP6YTM9XWs=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=c/3bibAGcLpcfF9LoiHFA0k9/27sSWrT8RrvKE6HMzJIkHtD0t50UAqtvdmHeRed7zAXBcJpPgwuwEL2fjKA+2cFIZ9nKheBWnXyLSwE7F+08YA1mqI4L7Q6OWFo1t5j1mecaypizVD58/rq5FTIGapuFWliRnaQ3BbbNRke5uY= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 00:40:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: 84016abdd353c82964b6d256164a353f Subject: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01D07194.A98468F0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2905 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01D07194.A98468F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Iban, They do work, but you must realise they are not intended as = radio receivers, and in many aspects their performance as radios is = compromised by their design as line measuring instruments. Problems = include IMD and lack of front end filtering, some lack audio output. Yes = you can get round this or you can be lucky that you location and antenna = help mitigate the problems. =20 You might be better to consider an SDR these days but make sure it = really cover the frequencies of interest. Graham G0NBD has information = on direct sampling mods to the DVT-B dongles. In Europe there are a lot = more LF signals from very strong stations than in the US so be careful = of US opinions that rate these as receivers. I have a couple of W&G = units which while useful as test equipment are less than brilliant and = barely worth their cost as receivers. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Iban Cardona=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:30 PM Subject: LF: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Hi, I'm looking to purchase a 3586C. Somebody is using it?=20 Can give-me feedback about to use in 136 and 477 kHz? Thanks for advance 73! 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Hi Iban, They do work, but you must = realise they=20 are not intended as radio receivers, and in many aspects their = performance as=20 radios is compromised by their design as line measuring instruments. = Problems=20 include IMD and lack of front end filtering, some lack audio output. Yes = you can=20 get round this or you can be lucky that you location and = antenna help=20 mitigate the problems. 
 
You might be better to consider an SDR = these days=20 but make sure it really cover the frequencies of interest. = Graham G0NBD has=20 information on direct sampling mods to the DVT-B dongles. In Europe = there are a=20 lot more LF signals from very strong stations than in the US so be = careful of US=20 opinions that rate these as receivers. I have a couple of W&G units = which=20 while useful as test equipment are less than brilliant and barely = worth=20 their cost as receivers.
 
Alan
G3NYK
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From:=20 Iban = Cardona=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 = 11:30=20 PM
Subject: LF: HP 3586C selective = level=20 meter for LF and MF

Hi,

I'm looking to purchase a 3586C. Somebody is using = it? 

Can give-me feedback about to use in 136 and 477 kHz?

Thanks for advance

73! Iban
eb3frn

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