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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Joe, yes 137555 Hz seems perfectly ok to me. According to my logs, PA0OCD and others have been operating nearby a couple of times about two months ago. But all these stations have variable frequency so it will surely not be a problem. 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According to my logs, PA0OCD and = others have been operating nearby a couple of times about two months = ago. But all these stations have variable frequency so it will surely = not be a problem. If Op-32 were used more heavily for DX work, we should somehow agree on = splitting transmit activity to avoid receiver desensitizing in the = region of the transmitter. For the such digital modes, using separate = preassigned timeslots (eg Europe even / America odd half hours) would = seem simpler and more compatible with software limitations than = organizing split frequency bands. Without much beforehand talking, this = has worked well for WSPR-15 during several nights: Stefan's lighthouse = beacon sent 50% duty cycle on even 15-minute slots, we Eu's simply went = along and joined him, and soon afterwards the Americans could be found = using those other slots. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) 2013-03-20 19:55:03 PA0OCD 543km 137554.655Hz 16mHz -46.2dBOp 62% = 16.8dB 2013-03-28 21:54:35 G8HUH 1019km 137554.600Hz 151mHz -39.8dBOp 75% = 17.8dB 2013-03-30 20:10:45 PA0OCD 543km 137554.635Hz 3mHz -45.0dBOp 90% = 19.5dB 2013-03-30 22:34:43 PA0OCD 543km 137554.635Hz 2mHz -38.5dBOp 100% = 21.0dB 2013-03-31 13:13:17 PA0OCD 543km 137554.635Hz 5mHz -38.7dBOp 100% = 21.7dB 2013-03-31 21:09:07 G8HUH 1019km 137554.414Hz 216mHz -38.9dBOp 60% = 19.1dB 2013-04-01 00:56:17 PA0OCD 543km 137554.635Hz 4mHz -44.4dBOp 94% = 18.8dB 2013-04-10 09:12:27 PA0A 539km 137554.547Hz 3mHz -31.3dBOp 93% = 21.9dB From: jcraig@mun.ca=20 Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:04 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - 137.7770 kHz Graham, Thank-you for all the info. It will come in handy when I start using Op again. Unfortunately, there were some stability issues last night which should be resolved soon. When that's done and a pc keyer is made for the new exciter, we should be back to the opera. Based on the info from Markus, perhaps 137.555 would be a good place to start. thanks again! 73 Joe VO1NA ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CE63D2.FBAD1770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe,
 
yes 137555 Hz seems perfectly ok to me. = According=20 to my logs, PA0OCD and others have been operating nearby a couple = of times=20 about two months ago. But all these stations have variable=20 frequency so it will surely not=20 be a problem.
 
If Op-32 were used more heavily for DX = work, we=20 should somehow agree on splitting transmit activity to avoid = receiver=20 desensitizing in the region of the transmitter. For the such = digital modes,=20 using separate preassigned timeslots (eg Europe even / America odd = half=20 hours) would seem simpler and more compatible with software limitations = than=20 organizing split frequency bands. Without much beforehand talking, this = has=20 worked well for WSPR-15 during several nights: Stefan's lighthouse = beacon sent=20 50% duty cycle on even 15-minute slots, we Eu's simply went = along and=20 joined him, and soon afterwards the Americans could be = found using=20 those other slots.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
2013-03-20 19:55:03 PA0OCD   = 543km=20 137554.655Hz  16mHz -46.2dBOp  62% 16.8dB
2013-03-28 21:54:35 G8HUH   = 1019km=20 137554.600Hz 151mHz -39.8dBOp  75% 17.8dB
2013-03-30 20:10:45 PA0OCD   = 543km=20 137554.635Hz   3mHz -45.0dBOp  90% 19.5dB
2013-03-30 22:34:43 PA0OCD   = 543km=20 137554.635Hz   2mHz -38.5dBOp 100% 21.0dB
2013-03-31 13:13:17 PA0OCD   = 543km=20 137554.635Hz   5mHz -38.7dBOp 100% 21.7dB
2013-03-31 21:09:07 G8HUH   1019km 137554.414Hz 216mHz=20 -38.9dBOp  60% 19.1dB
2013-04-01 00:56:17 PA0OCD   543km = 137554.635Hz   4mHz=20 -44.4dBOp  94% 18.8dB
2013-04-10 09:12:27 = PA0A    =20 539km 137554.547Hz   3mHz -31.3dBOp  93% = 21.9dB
 

Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:04 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - 137.7770 kHz

Graham,

Thank-you for all the = info.  It will=20 come in handy when I start
using Op again.  Unfortunately, there = were=20 some stability issues
last night which should be resolved soon.  = When=20 that's done and
a pc keyer is made for the new exciter, we should be = back=20 to
the opera.  Based on the info from Markus, perhaps 137.555=20 would
be a good place to start.

thanks again!
73
Joe=20 VO1NA

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