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From: "Chris" <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Thanks Alan.
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: LF: bounce test


> Hi Chris ....yes you should I do....mostly though some end up in my ISP 
> mail spam folder.
> However some ISPs regard all mails from self to self as spam .
>
> If you post to the group you will usually get a bounce message from 
> "bounce.io" telling you it could not deliver to g3xzx, and including a 
> gratuitous advert. it is a way they seek to make money out of this without 
> any agreement. They state that the web-host can get a cut of the 
> advertising revenue, but they make no attempt to contact the web host 
> before enabling the interception. I suppose we ought to complain of abuse 
> (if I knew who to complain to.....feel free if you do know) Unfortunately 
> they only way these could be stopped is to unsub the address but without 
> admin access we cant do that and the domain ....an old rsgb one.....is no 
> longer active. So if you change addresses PLEASE unsub the old one before 
> it expires and rejoin with the new one. Fortunaely we have a stable 
> membership or we would be flooded with this rubbish
>
> Blacksheep soldiers on now providing service for in excess of 20 years to 
> LFers.
>
> Alan
> G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris" <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: bounce test
>
>
>> Is this something new? I have always, for years, got a copy of my own 
>> messages back.
>> Chris, G4AYT.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "M0FMT" <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: bounce test
>>
>>
>>> Tnx fer info but bounce backs are the norm now with black-sheep.... :-(
>>>
>>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX
>>>
>>> On Sun, 20/11/16, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: LF: bounce test
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2016, 12:28
>>>
>>> Just to get an example of the
>>> bounce.io response.
>>>
>>> Please note these responses do not suggest your message has
>>> not been
>>> accepted, they show that one members address, now obselete,
>>> cannot be
>>> delivered to. They are only sent to the originator but are a
>>> pain. The owner
>>> of bounce.io has been advised he does not have authority to
>>> intercept these
>>> emails and has been requested to desist.....with no reply of
>>> course.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> G3NYK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>