Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-8b64981ba93fb; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:17:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b64981ba93fb; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:17:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LSXhu-0007em-6N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LSXht-0007ed-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:25 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LSXhs-00070q-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 9977 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2009 14:17:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=N5QbSHwhfbkOVjt/KQH8gg5un4Ycz7gF7QsAZdt0Gyyb7KZFfz+VSsKyLxipYvaSBx6HPy5x3lfOdkkq0C+zDtrIAQNJFeKZ4ygJbmAqJ68vvoyxjlTv13px6G0AUXUx4B3vyUXPNbu4U9ZXcWVpSKX5xF1VAiPsVfgP/IOx/vA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.135.206.173 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 14:17:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _uHgMCwVM1nw.h4Q1YltxIw.AAgrzidA0JGopqGVyikva0eHGt4tr5hUXXJiKDeQlkp_bpkRuywF247zIUGUDyaoMRBTDBaFafX_xWnr2an2C8Gd6xDCIU4hoH5J65azQq8Nddc._U2MAGK57PJNfiseNbWy4f0VudnuoaK5qyz164RwZREs5bmIgxjHp27_cvARs9jNdp4MsjzIb8GOIMAJB0Q0 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00c701c9818b$2aac4520$6401a8c0@asus> <16976E02F609403791409C408C93AFCA@AGB> <3692CCEF55434A78A271B29E8D4BC318@JimPC> <49817638.9070007@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <49817638.9070007@telia.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.171 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR - G0NBD Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Johan, Graham, LF Group, If the shorter frame length is due to a sample rate error, there should also be a corresponding upward shift in the audio output frequencies. If we take M0LMH's figure of 1.5 seconds shorter, the M0BMU PC as being correct, and a frame length around 110s this implies a sample rate error of about 1.4%. This means that the audio coming out of Graham's PC at around 1500Hz should be about 20Hz higher than the nominal value. Is there actually a significant frequency error, Graham? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" To: Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR - G0NBD > Dear Jim, LF, > > that is a clear evidence of a soundcard sampling rate error. I am quite > sure > that all timing in the WSPR software is derived from the sampling > frequency and, > if memory serves me, the WSPR program uses a sampling rate of 12kHz. If > the > soundcard does not support this rate and/or has a "physical" sampling rate > that > is not a multiple of 12kHz (for example 44.1 kHz), then the driver or > window$ > will kick in a "resampler" between the soundcard and the WSPR application > which > is asking for 12kHz. Many such resamplers are known to be inaccurate... > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM >