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This is an interesting answer and today OFCOM should be tested with another
request. I will happily do it if no-one else will.

With regard to 0-9kHz induction and conduction communications, i.e.
non-radiating systems, I wonder if they have any legal right to allocate
"radio" licences at all? I wonder if the RA's concern was a military one -
possibly compromising transmissions to nuclear submarines in the low VLF
region - and they were "instructed" to give this response.  If so they must
all be paranoid.

On a slightly political note, I for one wish the UK government would scrap
our nuclear submarine deterrent and plough the billions saved into renewable
energy research instead, but that is not for further discussion here. I'm
happy to discuss this with others off-list.

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 22 February 2010 16:10, ALAN MELIA <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi as far as the Uk is concerned it is not allowed. You probably need to
> contact Andy G4JNT for details he did approach the regulator at one time
> maybe around 2001/2 when Geri was doing his tests the answer as I remember
> was:-
> Frequencies below 10kHz are not allocated by International Treaty but we
> control all frequencies between DC and gamma rays, and no we will not be
> issuing any licences for that region.
>
> I believe that was the RadioCommunications Agency things may be different
> now with Ofcomm. The best person to know whether an approach would be
> worthwhile would be John Gould G4WKL who nursed the 500k stuff through.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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<div style=3D"text-align: left;">This is an interesting answer and today=
 OFCOM should be tested with another request. I will happily do it if no-o=
ne else will. <br><br>With regard to 0-9kHz induction and conduction commu=
nications, i.e. non-radiating systems, I wonder if they have any legal rig=
ht to allocate &quot;radio&quot; licences at all? I wonder if the RA&#39;s=
 concern was a military one - possibly compromising transmissions to nucle=
ar submarines in the low VLF region - and they were &quot;instructed&quot;=
 to give this response.=A0 If so they must all be paranoid.<br>
<br>On a slightly political note, I for one wish the UK government would=
 scrap our nuclear submarine deterrent and plough the billions saved into=
 renewable energy research instead, but that is not for further discussion=
 here. I&#39;m happy to discuss this with others off-list.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br></div><br><br><div style=3D"text-align: left=
;" class=3D"gmail_quote">On 22 February 2010 16:10, ALAN MELIA <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">alan.melia@btint=
ernet.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi as far as th=
e Uk is concerned it is not allowed. You probably need to contact Andy G4J=
NT for details he did approach the regulator at one time maybe around 2001=
/2 when Geri was doing his tests the answer as I remember was:-<br>

Frequencies below 10kHz are not allocated by International Treaty but we=
 control all frequencies between DC and gamma rays, and no we will not be=
 issuing any licences for that region.<br>
<br>
I believe that was the RadioCommunications Agency things may be different=
 now with Ofcomm. The best person to know whether an approach would be wor=
thwhile would be John Gould G4WKL who nursed the 500k stuff through.<br>
<br>
Alan G3NYK<br><br></blockquote></div><div style=3D"text-align: left;"><br>=
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/<=
/a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM">http://www.youtube.com/user/G3=
XBM</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
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