Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.88]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC062-862a4b3fc6e538f; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:21:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 63881380000B8; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRCKi-0007Mx-80 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:20:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRCKh-0007Mo-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRCKe-0003J0-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:20:27 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so9069102bwz.4 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:20:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8HCkfG6tZOgUdo6XjGzGdLt4kfu4/kC0BQ9exLvhoHM=; b=QTACSp5btf04HKhuOYf5QeccK0KZ6auPY3nsE8bqk2TWSnVRX4lOf9vxZwgkiVBBPP 4VcmmtbtMh3WIu1uESQ7GJecwVa+PcJByB+5JiNOuTT3s4eIjO1l5IaW3/Y+XK3/Aw5c Dq4IB3BlDJszsy/eW7+HwDuHwFLqm5pM2BcQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bNW0GAS7aw0NaICv0+OmdEi4S5YL9TiMAlguLZkIuFpB9iNin6RsV/E4ewG8y7yBOf QF0C9PNTQo/ePhZjNIQlJoiXxZ4nT80EMHyyYtR5kYQd9gH4EUfa/nkyodPHDgHwdzZY 7cSu7bLVEF8jatdgV4vkIFpyc2lXD0AukMlUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.69 with SMTP id 5mr5407784bky.83.1262470818710; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:20:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:20:18 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e31eb046fa047c35e4ae X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60584b3fc6e50dc6 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1e31eb046fa047c35e4ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mal, Some suggestions: 1. *More* people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation and station performance/changes to be determined. This would leave plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational modes. 2. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's *not* a good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX if interference to weak signals is likely. 3. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant and moan less". 73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector Roger G3XBM 2010/1/2 mal hamilton > I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs wide and > S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us trying to > listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot understand why a > station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allocation. > The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. > Does anyone else have an opinion? > G3KEV > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --000e0cd1e31eb046fa047c35e4ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,

Some suggestions:
  1. More people should use WS= PR - lots of stations (more than 100 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are= able to operate together within just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing= very useful data on propagation and station performance/changes to be det= ermined.=A0 This would leave plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW= and other narrowband conversational modes.
  2. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK), is= of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a= good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance= DX if interference to weak signals is likely.
  3. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant an= d moan less".
73s and a happy New Year to all on this= reflector

Roger G3XBM




2010/1/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on= 508 kcs=20 spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QR= M to=20 those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I canno= t=20 understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band=20 allocation.
The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swampe= d by=20 beacons.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
G3KEV
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