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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Rightly said, Jay. Where are you all out there? Anyway I'll stay in listening mode tonight. Grabbers running on 137 kHz as usual for Bob, Joe, Stefan and everyone else, and also on 8270 Hz which is being illuminated by Uwe. 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Where are you all out there? Anyway I'll stay in listening mode tonight. Grabbers running on 137 kHz = as usual for Bob, Joe, Stefan and everyone else, and also on 8270 Hz = which is being illuminated by Uwe. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF tonite Markus Alternate nights is fine by me. Things have gotten a bit boring on LF = lately ... same old, same old. Gone are the days of stations actively = transmitting from a number of EU countries, BIG antenna tests from = RU6LA, HB9 etc, ZL6QH Quartz Hill ops etc.=20 Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 WG2XRS/2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF tonite Hi Stefan, Bob, all, just wondering if it makes much sense if everyone was transmitting at = the same time. This may work out well during a dedicated "WSPR night" = with alternate slots, but not so well with QRSS or DFCW beacons, as none = of us can simultaneously receive and transmit on the same band. Who's = listening then? In my opinion, it would be better if as many as possible Europeans = (not only Germans) would transmit during one night, and all available = listeners (Jay and Dex very much appreciated, who else?) would be = watching and uploading grabs from the other side. The next night we swap = roles, many beacons from America and grabbers in Europe. Just my five cents... shoot it down if you want! Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:28 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: LF tonite Stefan; I was waiting to see what you were planning for tonight. You start = much earlier there of course and around 2300 I be back home. I am tuned = up on 137 band and will see what you are doing at that time and if still = on WSPR 15 I will fire up alternate quarter hours as usual or go to = QRSS60 if you changed-Bob =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:21:13 +0100 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF tonite Hi Bob, LF,=20 Bob, what are you planniung for tonite? What is the plan? :-) Just thought about some WSPR-15 but DFCW-90 just gives better results = (valid detections) than WSPR. Due to the public database, WSPR is more = popular though, for some OMs. So it all has it's advantage... Think i'll start with WSPR now and may switch back to DGCW later. 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CF14BD.C15AEDD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rightly said, Jay. Where = are you all out=20 there?
 
Anyway I'll stay in listening mode = tonight.=20 Grabbers running on 137 kHz as usual for Bob, Joe, Stefan and = everyone=20 else, and also on 8270 Hz which is being illuminated by = Uwe.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF tonite

Markus
 
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Alternate nights is fine by = me. Things have=20 gotten a bit boring on LF lately ... same old, same old. Gone are the = days of=20 stations actively transmitting from a number of EU countries, BIG = antenna tests=20 from RU6LA, HB9 etc, ZL6QH Quartz Hill ops  etc.
 
</lament>
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2 =20 WG2XRS/2
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Saturday, January 18, = 2014 2:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF = tonite

Hi Stefan, Bob, all,
 
just wondering if it makes much sense = if everyone=20 was transmitting at the same time. This may work out well during = a=20 dedicated "WSPR night" with alternate slots, but not so well with QRSS = or DFCW=20 beacons, as none of us can simultaneously receive and transmit on = the=20 same band. Who's listening then?
 
In my opinion, it would be better = if as many=20 as possible Europeans (not only Germans) would transmit during = one night,=20 and all available listeners (Jay and Dex very much = appreciated, who=20 else?) would be watching and uploading grabs from the other side. The = next=20 night we swap roles, many beacons from America and grabbers in=20 Europe.
 
Just my five cents... shoot it down = if you=20 want!
 
Best 73,
Markus = (DF6NM)
 

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: LF tonite

Stefan;
I was waiting to see what you were planning = for=20 tonight.  You start much earlier there of course and around 2300 = I be=20 back home.  I am tuned up on 137 band and will see what you are = doing at=20 that time and if still on WSPR 15 I will fire up alternate quarter = hours as=20 usual or go to QRSS60 if you changed-Bob
 
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:21:13 +0100
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup= .uni-heidelberg.de
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: LF tonite

Hi Bob, = LF,=20

Bob, what are you planniung for tonite? What is the plan? = :-)
Just=20 thought about some WSPR-15 but DFCW-90 just gives better results = (valid=20 detections) than WSPR. Due to the public database, WSPR is more = popular=20 though, for some OMs. So it all has it's advantage...
Think i'll = start with=20 WSPR now and may switch back to DGCW later.

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

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