Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.204]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-86494b99546539; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:36:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 413E638001517; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Npp5Y-0001Ag-0i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:34:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Npp5X-0001AX-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:34:35 +0000 Received: from smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Npp5U-0006Ww-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:34:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 87621 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 20:34:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tjby4tsBBXmQCIUZc+B0Dv/LTGLjMA/Ff0ROpzZyurHvIS74zn6Qm+DIExns0IAUxG4uu0DZ5OSSu3swvoL8Y1i5+Y5Nk6Le87UBcYYN+Nl+voeQGPyAah3y9lsc0938fK5gs5BFtJneQcsKc6hW7v2k0976Imb7vJk6rHxacSA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1268339667; bh=V+PWOzEZYcgCTgiVPpQT1pI7LhHh9aJceDz1r+XVrK0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jV2jYSBn2ekM7pXD5xoa4+YhCMIcUp68N7pbS3mhB0kndCJ4rKv6VJy5hgYF76UDkLz0RFoJ8NMhPC3LHnpCWyVe5OSHiQKNSa8y/G7FapxjxOusKjdUvq/8C+Z6P1npBtldLNzupoh4EyGyXEsxUG84Txyld2k/XozTOSWnKEE= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.180.204.156 with login) by smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 20:34:27 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: KWqxAhEVM1lyoRaXyimzmLjPPg5ev2VvPI5HCa13MgKB3Cq4b1uiN5GCNmnJRAZGA5SyYXApys.KcOB8nLCpB4xrN2yKFMYtHytKI2.jZ4FV.66UhlC6Qr3wL3bbQpeyfB5uYO2gBWjO6hPpElYlx.zR.30ymXaOsyX3Iy1gzfxQwTLXZBUBFYna1rN8HWpBVuVZCIUuasv.xu6fV87AEXoNsLaoZoLMj99ACHPkp1LaEU3c4H5XgPYMNsz5vQCs X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9D7C2F9B306347BEA848AC1560D1162B@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000a01cac139$b9d5e5a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000a01cac139$b9d5e5a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:34:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DREAM 9 ANTENNA Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d242.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cc4b99542d6666 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, G3KEV wrote: ... Base load the antenna with the necessary inductance for resonance and if necessary add another small inductor in series to ground and adjust with taps up from ground to get a 1 : 1 match with the coax feed from the TX, readjust the main inductor to maintain resonance if necessary. This system has never failed me on 73, 137 and 500 kcs and this would be my approach on 9 kcs. ... - However it would fail at 9kHz, or on any other band, if the total loss resistance of the antenna and main loading coil is >50ohms. This is often the case with smaller antennas than those at G3KEV, especially at lower frequencies. At 9kHz, it seems to be quite hard to make the loading coil resistance by itself as low as 50 ohms. If the total loss resistance IS greater than 50ohms, then a different configuration of matching network is required. BTW, Mal, I don't ever remember hearing you on 73kHz... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU