Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.85]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC043-a9314d13927f209; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:18:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 146AB380000B0; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PVpjE-0002CG-UE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:17:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PVpjE-0002C7-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:17:28 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVpjC-00043r-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:17:28 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2B6CD1C000DF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:17:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1EFFF1C000DA for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:17:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.159]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BC9281C000DF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:17:20 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20101223181720772.BC9281C000DF@mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9D05D302A950415DAFE5C853AFBDB7B7@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4D122CE9.26517.19CC01F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <776F8577325D4C4881D6DFA12096E0D3@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:17:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101223-0, 23/12/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Full ID Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CBA2CD.A11F4E90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60554d139277375d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CBA2CD.A11F4E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's true .. but worked nicely on 5 megs .. and the plots on= 500 showed what could be done with a short pulse and some goo= d software .. With the extreme qsb on LF , most of the long pulse beacon , oop's= sorry CW . transmissions are lost anyway as can be seen by the= new level of - did you - did I - could it - was it - no or ok= - ... traffic on the reflector .. =20 What could be better than a system that could give a real posit= ive ID on, say only 1 10 second tx pulse ,=20 Maybe should be re-named the - Small Green Beacon - project as th= e low TX power levels will reduce the polar ice cap erosion ? Some words on the idea=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/the-big-beacon-project Feb 4 2008=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-a= ndy-g4jnt From: STEVE MCDONALD=20 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:42 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: Full ID >where stations simply ...transmitted a long =20 > pulse ... monitoring software then simply =20 > looked in the slots gad...the only thing worse than single-letter ID's is no ID at all.=20 This still does not address the problem of LFers who choose not to be= on the reflectors as well as newcomers and casual tuners, wondering= who the heck they are seeing. Steve / VE7SL ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CBA2CD.A11F4E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's  true .. but worked = nicely =20 on 5  megs  .. and the  plots  on  500 = =20 showed  what  could be  done with a  short = pulse=20 and  some good  software ..
 
With the  extreme  qsb on= LF  , most=20 of the  long pulse beacon , oop's  sorry  CW . transmis= sions are=20 lost anyway as can  be seen  by  the new  level&nb= sp; of -=20 did  you  - did I - could it  -  was it  - no=  or=20  ok -   ... traffic on the  reflector ..  <= /DIV>
 
What  could be better  than=   a=20 system that  could  give a  real  positive ID &nbs= p; on, say=20  only  1  10 second  tx pulse ,
 
Maybe  should be re-named the&nb= sp;  -=20 Small  Green Beacon -  project as the  low   TX po= wer =20 levels  will  reduce the  polar ice cap  erosion= =20 ?
 
Some  words  on the = idea=20
 
 
Feb 4 2008
 
 

Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Full ID



>where  stations simply ...transmitted a  lo= ng =20
> pulse ... monitoring  software  then simply =
>=20 looked in the  slots
 
gad...the only thing worse than single-letter ID's is no ID at al= l.
 
This still does not address the problem of LFers who choose not= to be on=20 the reflectors as well as newcomers and casual tuners, wondering who= the heck=20 they are seeing.
 
Steve / VE7SL
 
 


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