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Content preview: The problem is Mal, The Op mode is sending 'data' and the qrss idea is only sending a carrier and as can be seen, very extended times are needed to send a call-sign , which in turn are modulated by qsb into fragments , last night's test by Stefan showed that propagation was available on 136 , in the day as well as the night , and from the Iceland decodes , later in the night , two Uk stations also decoded , near to the OP8 system limit ~ -32 -33 dB , while Stefan was some 10 to 15 dB higher [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b707651713bcd4ad9db4bb0f5d794041 Subject: Re: LF: 136 DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CD669C.1A992D70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:473492416:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405a500985e83bbb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CD669C.1A992D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem is Mal, The Op mode is sending 'data' and the qrss idea is only sending = a carrier and as can be seen, very extended times are needed to = send a call-sign , which in turn are modulated by qsb into = fragments , last night's test by Stefan showed that propagation was = available on 136 , in the day as well as the night , and from the = Iceland decodes , later in the night , two Uk stations also decoded = , near to the OP8 system limit ~ -32 -33 dB , while Stefan was = some 10 to 15 dB higher=20 OP32 is 6 dB lower minimum decode , but takes 4 times longer , = interesting would be , to run a test at OP32 , before band = conditions change very much ? 73 -G. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:44 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 136 DX LF It has never been difficult to get a QRS 3 signal into 4X4RF or TF3HZ = or Moscow area and even CW. It seems most are bashing away in QRS120 most of the time when QRS 3 = would do the trick.=20 I worked UA6LA on CW two way 136.5 Khz March 2005 for the first time. also it is possible to be been seen at TF3HZ during daytime and I have = also worked OH1TN many times during the daytime on 136.5 Faster speed are preferable to beat QSB. This is my approach and if it = does not work then I slow down if necessary. On 160 metres especially winter time I can work UA9 stns daytime from my = QTH and I would say it could likewise be done on 600 metres if anyone in = UA9 was available for a QSO. To achive good long haul results on LF es MF good Antennas and = sufficient power is essential, this also helps avoid the QSB problem. de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CD669C.1A992D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The problem is Mal,
 
The Op  mode is  sending  'data'  and the  = qrss  idea is  only  sending  a  carrier = and  as=20 can be seen, very extended  times  are  needed  = to =20 send  a  call-sign , which in turn  are modulated = by  qsb=20 into  fragments , last night's  test by Stefan showed that = propagation=20 was available  on 136 , in the  day  as well  as = the =20 night , and from the  Iceland  decodes , later in the  = night ,=20 two  Uk stations  also  decoded , near to  the = OP8 =20 system  limit  ~  -32 -33   dB , while =20 Stefan  was  some  10 to  15 dB higher
 
OP32  is  6  dB lower  minimum  = decode =20 , but  takes 4  times longer , interesting would be , to  = run=20 a  test  at OP32 , before  band  = conditions  =20 change  very much ?
 
73 -G.

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:44 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 136 DX

LF
It has never been difficult to get a QRS = 3 signal=20 into 4X4RF or TF3HZ  or Moscow area and even CW.
It seems most are bashing away in QRS120 most of = the time=20 when QRS 3 would do the trick.
I worked UA6LA on CW two way 136.5 Khz March = 2005 for=20 the first time.
also it is possible to be been seen at = TF3HZ during=20 daytime and I have also worked OH1TN many times during the daytime on=20 136.5
Faster speed are preferable to beat QSB. This is = my=20 approach and if it does not work then I slow down if = necessary.
On 160 metres especially winter time I can work = UA9 stns=20 daytime from my QTH and I would say it could likewise be done on 600 = metres if=20 anyone in UA9 was available for a QSO.
To achive good long haul results on LF es = MF good=20 Antennas and sufficient power is essential, this also helps avoid the = QSB=20 problem.
de G3KEV
 
 
 
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