Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.76]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-b4f04be2d095237; Thu, 06 May 2010 10:22:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0CB12380001CD; Thu, 6 May 2010 10:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OA1wZ-0003dQ-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:20:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OA1wY-0003dH-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:20:50 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OA1wW-0007A2-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:20:50 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 06AFB70000AC for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 16:20:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE5BB70000B5 for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 16:20:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.73.61]) by mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B79C270000AC for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 16:20:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100506142041752.B79C270000AC@mwinf3506.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <9BCE59F3612041E2978D292C01D4E3E6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:20:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100506-0, 06/05/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE=1.543 Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_LF:_Re:_LF:_500_Permit_emission=92s_bandwidth=3F_EU_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?and_Global_=3F=3F?= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404c4be2d0926a18 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks Warren, Post the ros-tests here may be a narrow version of the Ros dat= a=20 mode , but it looks like it will have to be 100 Hz and not 125 Hz= or no=20 one will be able to use it (on 500) .. assuming the little proble= ms=20 are resolved , it will also run on hf and take much less space ..= . Beacons may be able to run the eme mode as is ? (eme is a live keyboard chat mode .. but only 1 baud, the new= =20 'hf/mf' version will be faster. if its coded) 73 - G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Ziegler" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:01 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: LF: 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? EU and Global= ?? > > Graham, > > In the US there is no amateur allocation only "Experimental > Licenses" issued under Part 5 of the FCC Rules (Amateur is under Par= t > 97 of the FCC Rules). Each Experimental license is unique, it is up= to > the applicant to request frequencies, power, modes, and bandwidth,= it > is up to the FCC to decide on a case by case basis if there is > adequate justification for the request. The 500kHz license > application that I filed (WE2XGR) specifies up to 1kHz for data and > also allows for ssb. The WD2XSH license filed on behalf of the ARRL > specifies cw and narrowband data (PSK, WSPR) only. > > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Graham wro= te: >> 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? >> >> >> >> Can any one indicated what is the permitted =91telegraphy=92 ba= ndwidth=20 >> of >> the various =91new=92 500KHz licences or special permits issued= round the >> EU and now the rest of the Globe ? >> >> >> >> I have the impression that 100 Hz is the maximum =91telegraphy=92= =20 >> transmission >> bandwidth, in some cases, eg , Belgium at 100 Hz . Others appear= to be=20 >> some >> what wider or not defined ?. >> >> >> >> Norway is CW only ? what is the Dutch allocation ? Southern Ire= land ? >> ... etc >> >> >> >> Are Beacons defined by mode or bandwidth ? >> >> >> >> Tnx =96 Graham >> >> G0NBD >> >> >> >> (I use the word =91telegraphy=92 as defined by the ITU R V.662-3= , please >> no reference to key clicks ! ) >> >> > >=20