Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 92CD538000B08; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qrzin-0007Cz-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:56:53 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qrzim-0007Cq-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:56:52 +0100 Received: from web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp ([114.111.98.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qrzih-00021m-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:56:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 46959 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2011 21:56:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.jp; s=yj20110701; t=1313186195; bh=SiekAagb1k99yHDYsmXJ7CXO2/yNk+T9JuLkN4co48I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FnjElbbNxLn0boqFxZtebNamupzLoBSoXD/ENh3sjsau/RWcfUzpaJM/aflOvLECXkd6cnHsPHqmfgInhyG+a6xSmTgaYVNtnOfbedrEox1IR8mebAqKfHMf1G0GFJVWWClpzOJeQqrazJw6V2UOrxcCF3pmNdyJYDZhosI8G8k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20110701; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MfBqCKc4mJyh7pcu4Mg3CdvxLRpvqY22MDmM1OvfvPSkYoHcKigE4sxjBIqFMv33uc7FCua+HKYtiAYSgZFSiOxXEPVP3472Sm/E0U1n9mfIOPX0NY3q9CK+iglULq9ghFqjWRarL85/stlJFKHnTuFc5e4Gv6dQ0p6LKuakyOk=; Message-ID: <998484.37544.qm@web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> X-YMail-OSG: DY7oG2QVM1ncVZJwDI5byLZunmb.wNC5Z7Jh41qyz55zpl3YongmauO.HOmHLh5APGp51qD3KelL4mOedWfl0dnwxsaPlA2q4.8m1sJQ3napiKWTDVkA3x3uxKyO_PUHbMcQfue1loqB0PrtRWqK0urXHyE3BVaqguTMlC9G.d7KRtFa3ntMCC2V_JS_BFXAePmzFSbj0SKdS0lx49UVWRAPabB5JyVavcV605RVy_OOZQkcZxA5LRsB_UXMR4twRB22Av.FUqT1cXv5lTZcG_wvCCNT3wWzHKw- Received: from [59.140.58.30] by web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:56:34 JST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.12_36 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:56:34 +0900 (JST) From: Knight Ao To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000c01cc5936$8c6c0fe0$4001a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re:LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:437619584:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m259.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.jp DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40854e45a1e272ee X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Thanks Alan.=0A=0AI just uploaded sequential captures:=0Ahttp://icas.to/arg= o/dcf39/=0A=0AIt started to show up about one hour before the sunrise.=0AMy= question is if DCF39's space freq exactly falls on 138,830.5Hz.=0A(Maybe m= y Spec Lab freq accuracy is to 0.05Hz or so.)=0A=0ARX: DC RX (Fc 130kHz) di= rectly fed into Spec Lab=0AAnt: Mini-Whip PA0RDT design up 17.5m (just 2.5m= from bldg. top)=0A=0A73,=0A=0A=0AYas - JA8SCD/1=0ATokyo=0A=0A=0A=0A--- Ala= n Melia wrote:=0A> Hi Jas it is difficult to say for sure but I think you = can be fairly certain=0A> that is DCF39. I dont think there are anyother si= gnals like that on LF=0A> anywhere else in the world and the fact it fades = out at sunrise is a further=0A> proof I think.=0A> =0A> In Europe we can he= ar the "telegrams" every 10 seconds or so they have about=0A> a 120Hz shift= I cant remember the exact value. You will not see these on the=0A> screen = you will need to dig it out of the noise. The telegram is only about=0A> 1 = second long I think.=0A> =0A> Well done that is a good bit of DX for you.= =0A> =0A> Best Wishes=0A> Alan G3NYK=0A> =0A> ----- Original Message ----- = =0A> From: "Knight Ao" =0A> To: =0A> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:10 PM=0A> Subject: LF: DCF39= =0A> =0A> =0A> Hello LF,=0A> =0A> This was my first try to listen for DCF39= .=0A> The attached screen capture shows a trace around 138,830.5Hz.=0A> Can= anyone out there in Europe please confirm this is from DCF39=0A> or not. I= t just faded away around 19:55, the sunrise time in Tokyo=0A> of today.=0A>= =0A> 73,=0A> =0A> =0A> Yas - JA8SCD/1=0A> Tokyo=0A> =0A> =0A>