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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Uwe, sorry, nothing was seen or detected here from your transmission today. Not a trace. Der erste Versuch ist meist nicht genuch (Didi Drahtlos). Yes I noticed the good trace on Paul Nicholson's spectrogram http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1388246400&b=080&s=sp. Just look at it the other way round: You did send a long carrier, only with some short interruptions. But the gaps were so short that the spectrum didn't notice them ;-) [...] Content analysis details: (-0.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.143.76 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.6 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5fc8987c5011a8849fb47b0998281191 Subject: VLF: Uwe Opera-4H Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CF0400.0D8C3FC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3646 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CF0400.0D8C3FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uwe, sorry, nothing was seen or detected here from your transmission today. = Not a trace. Der erste Versuch ist meist nicht genuch (Didi Drahtlos).=20 Yes I noticed the good trace on Paul Nicholson's spectrogram = http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1388246400&b=3D080&s=3Dsp. Just = look at it the other way round: You did send a long carrier, only with = some short interruptions. But the gaps were so short that the spectrum = didn't notice them ;-)=20 More seriously: Compared to a continuous carrier, with 50% duty cycle = the carrier component is still there but 6 db down (half average = voltage). In terms of power, on average you are spending 50% of the = power. 25% (-6 dB) goes to the central carrier, and the other 25% into = the AM sidebands carrying the message. =20 What I find strange is that the spectrogram trace seems to have jumped = 28 mHz low, once near the beginning and again for an hour around 14:30. = Are you sure that your samplerate correction had been engaged without = interruption? Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:05 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: Re: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab OK., Markus, but the Todmorden grabber shows the signs.its a surprise = for me. I didnt expect it samples such relative short signs. GL Uwe/dj8wx tks for the correction. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 28.12.2013 12:47 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Uwe, good news! I'm watching and searching ;-)=20 Background noise seems to be a few dB higher than the last couple of = days, but we'll see what's possible anyway. Unfortunately the OK2BVG = grabber website appears to be down at the moment. Good luck! 73, Markus (DF6NM) PS: In my original mail, the Op-8 line in the speed table erroneously = contained an entry for Op-4. This has been corrected beneath. =20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:14 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab Hi all, the PA has been switched on. the next txt block will start now. GL Uwe/dj8wx -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 27.12.2013 15:47 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: Re: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Hi Markus, Wolf, Stefan, Peter es all, tks for the advice, Markus=20 now SpecLab is beaconing in mode Op-4H on 8969.99Hz the PA is off until it is dry outside.=20 I keep your proposal txing btwn 0700 and 1400MEZ in mind, Markus. 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Uwe,
 
sorry, nothing was seen or detected = here from your=20 transmission today. Not a trace. Der = erste Versuch=20 ist meist nicht genuch (Didi Drahtlos). 
 
Yes I noticed the good trace on Paul = Nicholson's=20 spectrogram http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1388246400&b=3D080&am= p;s=3Dsp.=20 Just look at it the other way round: = You did send=20 a long carrier, only with some short interruptions. But the gaps = were so=20 short that the spectrum didn't notice them ;-) 
 
More seriously: Compared to a continuous carrier, with=20 50% duty cycle the carrier component is still there but 6 db down (half = average=20 voltage). In terms of power, on average you are spending 50% of the=20 power. 25% (-6 dB) goes to the central carrier, and the = other 25%=20 into the AM sidebands carrying the = message.    
 
What I find strange is = that the=20 spectrogram trace seems to have jumped 28 mHz low, once=20 near the beginning and again for an hour around 14:30. Are you = sure=20 that your samplerate correction had been engaged without=20 interruption?
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de =
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:05 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: Re: LF: Sending Opera with = SpecLab

OK.,=20 Markus, but the Todmorden grabber shows the signs.its a surprise for me. = I didnt=20 expect it samples such relative short signs.
GL
Uwe/dj8wx
tks = for the=20 correction.
Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Gesendet:=20 28.12.2013 12:47
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Betreff:=20 Re: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab

Uwe,
 
good news! = I'm=20 watching and searching ;-) 
 
Background = noise seems to=20 be a few dB higher than the last couple of days, but we'll see = what's=20 possible anyway. Unfortunately the OK2BVG = grabber=20 website appears to be down at the moment.
 
Good = luck!
 
73, Markus=20 (DF6NM)
 
PS: In my = original mail,=20 the Op-8 line in the speed table erroneously contained = an entry=20 for Op-4. This has been corrected beneath.  
 

From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de =
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:14 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: Sending Opera with = SpecLab

Hi=20 all,
the PA has been switched on. the next txt block will start=20 now.
GL
Uwe/dj8wx
Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Gesendet:=20 27.12.2013 15:47
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Betreff:=20 Re: Re: LF: Sending Opera with SpecLab

Hi Markus, Wolf, Stefan, Peter es all,

tks for the=20 advice, Markus

now SpecLab is beaconing in mode Op-4H on = 8969.99Hz

the PA is off until it is dry outside.

I keep your proposal  txing btwn 0700 and 1400MEZ in mind, = Markus.

GL

Uwe/dj8wx/dj8CAT

 

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