Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.26]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-8bc74d6cfe96226; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:11:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 772A2380001B2; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PuQHa-0001Kw-IU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:10:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PuQHZ-0001Kn-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:10:33 +0000 Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.249]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PuQHZ-0008Em-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:10:33 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.210] by nm8.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2011 14:10:28 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.174] by tm3.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2011 14:10:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2011 14:10:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 185940.13642.bm@omp1015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 48461 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2011 14:10:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1298988627; bh=ibd4cX7/iMFHLtAtLSz2wglUdofXvMOKRkHocQPkIQI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pLuHBgTXdSpxEI3yjLmT0sTOV1kZwEdwruu1YCoR4ZO5Rw27Eoa0eFk/rYtqoxlXeiMGpoLOfCKlIsqIXnlgsjrtp71xaSwqK+jR+k9SDeEa6TmDuQYZo9IjV+zgcDODJCNehVlvllKuLGT8QiThNyaCVAPsXpAjWpj4WVwrf2k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=esI+2R4j9BLO+n/RLPpeLY+ZtLlPu3mTF2SqJONCLhHrK0BOHZgugPDQsiPc5oP9O6rJi4g6168Untckla4CZTAlABcMBuQwvb9R6beSnrsd/hho2BL2L3dmZrQrsOP2Z9801TkslUzkQWxAIzPI+QjsvIEiTHDWMNLfRk5pglk=; Message-ID: <969875.47411.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7v_COPoVM1lD038sr5B3yt5c4Dw17.hHurnXHH3AWXb86.U FCf9PwBWUcN.2RkMzbKsnm7RLktXI65K.Rj1GrhN0MW7VGWt8OZAg4bCwdU2 xxydTjVanX3ValhwXrFFM9t2IRXkM1w6Vh7S8HSpZo9womnSeGM3.SeAwQtA 4TDgeGMFHP5YQiqoG1YOyC8PEpdZom9sizl.kZMQuUg6qcKA.pPJqIt5ZP9L dEFwoB1rLBNL.e7iDqxh7FBDMhpnAPnyu3bwmk3F9REHyC2rkEbZay.tKwVA KwUeQcW26xZxcVG7fOoQTg9hjUuQcucov1_28tbaxDGI- Received: from [86.139.92.60] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:10:27 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <842796.49870.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <006901cbd80e$e0120450$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:10:27 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <006901cbd80e$e0120450$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1944514005-1298988627=:47411" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d411a4d6cfe940f8d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-1944514005-1298988627=:47411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gary, Mal and LF Thanks for the info Garry a fine grabber set up and thanks for the report.= I=20 have been sliightly side tracked by the reports for which I am grateful. =A0However my original plan was to test for how much power I can run witho= ut=20 messing up this ADSL over copper that BT have cobbled up. Its not a step= =20 function because the=A0exchange DSLAMs react slowly=A0dependent upon the= level and=20 type of noise they see on the line so my=A0test have to be over time. OK Mal thanks for the info .... I lied...... I do have another xtal on=20 136.580kc/s I have now QSYed there now...... OK?..... :-) =A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 ________________________________ From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 12:47:50 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Pete Its unfortunate u are rock bound. right on the QSO freq. The trouble is yo= u are=20 not visible in EU therefore others in QSO mode are calling CQ on 137.7 una= ware=20 that u are there.=20 The Beacon area seems to be around 136.177 plus/minus=20 Your signal is solid with me at this distance. 73 gl de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 >From: M0FMT=20 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:27 AM >Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] > > >Hi Dave(34m),Mal(195m)=A0and LF > >Thanks for the reports. Rig 2W TX=A0RFo/p to=A0ant Inv "L" up abt12m 35ln= g W-E.=20 >Other reports G4AYT(74m), G6PKS(75m), M0JXM(6m) and G3YXM grabber nw fade= d(75m)=20 >Tnx to all. >=A0 >It is on=A0for short period mainly to test the effect on ADSL Broadband= over=20 >copper around here. >500kc/s=A0wipes=A0ADSL out with virtually=A0a milliWatt or two=A0but 136= seems OK at=20 >this power. > >Mal it's the only xtal I have but can pull it a few c/s LF.=A0What is the= =20 >minimum=A0LF you think I should go please?=A0 > >=A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 > > > > > ________________________________ From: mal hamilton >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 19:54:24 >Subject: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] > > >Not a good idea to Beacon on a busy QSO FREQUENCY.=20 >G3KEV > >----- Original Message -----=20 >>From: Dave G3WCB.=20 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:06 PM >>Subject: LF: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] >> >> >>Dear All, >>=A0 >>M0FMT captured sending QRSS 10 on 137,700 yesterday. "O" copy. Pete's si= gnal=20 >>would have probably been OK in QRSS 3. >>=A0 >>OH1TN seen in QRSS3 yesterday evening, O>M copy, with QSB. >>=A0 >>Screenshots attached. >>=A0 >>73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM, near Windsor, S.E.England. >>=A0 >>=A0 >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal hamilton >>>Sent: 28 February 2011 16:51 >>>To: rsgb >>>Subject: LF: 137.7 acty >>> >>> >>>Yesterday evening OH1TN was active with a strong and audible signal, no= t seen=20 >>>for a while. Today FMT is strong also on 137.7. >>>OH1TN was not visible on the EU Grabbers neither is FMT today. >>>Strange condx=20 >>>=A0 >>>de G3KEV > =20 --0-1944514005-1298988627=:47411 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gary, Mal and LF
 
Thanks for the info Garry a fine grabber set up and thanks for the re= port. I have been sliightly side tracked by the reports for which I am gra= teful.
 
 However my original plan was to test for how much power I can= run without messing up this ADSL over copper that BT have cobbled up. Its= not a step function because the exchange DSLAMs react slowly de= pendent upon the level and type of noise they see on the line so my t= est have to be over time.
 
OK Mal thanks for the info .... I lied...... I do have another xtal= on 136.580kc/s I have now QSYed there now...... OK?..... :-)
 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20

=
From: mal hamilton <g3k= evmal@talktalk.net>
To:<= /B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 12:47:50
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1T= N]

Pete
Its unfortunate u are rock bound. right on the QSO= freq. The trouble is you are not visible in EU therefore others in QSO mo= de are calling CQ on 137.7 unaware that u are there.
The Beacon area seems to be around 136.177 plus/mi= nus
Your signal is solid with me at this distance.
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From: M0FMT
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:27= AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty= [M0FMT & OH1TN]

Hi Dave(34m),Mal(195m) and LF
 
Thanks for the reports. Rig 2W TX RFo/p to ant Inv "L" up= abt12m 35lng W-E.
Other reports G4AYT(74m), G6PKS(75m), M0JXM(6m) and G3= YXM grabber nw faded(75m) Tnx to all.
 
It is on for short period mainly to test the effect on ADSL Broa= dband over copper around here.
500kc/s wipes ADSL out with virtually a milliWatt or= two but 136 seems OK at this power.
 
Mal it's the only xtal I have but can pull it a few c/s LF. What= is the minimum LF you think I should go please? 

 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

=
From: mal hamilton <g3k= evmal@talktalk.net>
To:<= /B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
S= ent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 19:54:24
Subject: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1T= N]

Not a good idea to Beacon on a busy QSO FREQUENCY.=
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:0= 6 PM
Subject: LF: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT= & OH1TN]

Dear All,
 
M0FMT captured sending QRSS 10 on 137,700 yesterday. "O" copy. Pe= te's signal would have probably been OK in QRSS 3.
 
OH1TN seen in QRSS3 yesterday evening, O>M copy, with QSB.
 
Screenshots attached.
 
73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM, near Windsor, S.E.England.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 28 February 2011 16:51
To: rsgbSubject: LF: 137.7 acty

Yesterday evening OH1TN was active with a strong= and audible signal, not seen for a while. Today FMT is strong also on 137= .7.
OH1TN was not visible on the EU Grabbers neither= is FMT today.
Strange condx
 
de G3KEV


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