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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Markus, My indoor loop is just under the roof (slates). There is no metallic parts in the walls and all switching devices (supplies, fluo lights) are disconnected (no ADSL here, only 4G). The PC used for the capture do not increase the noise. (The noises on the captures before 22h30 yesterday were caused by changes to the settings) [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (f6hcc56[at]free.fr) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (f6hcc56[at]free.fr) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 7c995d39cde70605aa76dd18810a4256 Subject: Re: LF: 136 kHz TA Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CF57E0.4AC096A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CF57E0.4AC096A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Markus, My indoor loop is just under the roof (slates). There is no metallic parts in the walls and all switching devices = (supplies, fluo lights) are disconnected (no ADSL here, only 4G). The PC used for the capture do not increase the noise. (The noises on the captures before 22h30 yesterday were caused by = changes to the settings) But, as said Stefan, I think that I could improve the receiving by the = addition of a preamplifier. (at present the noise is low, too low... I think) I hope to finish this preamplifier in a few days. Many thanks for your transmissions (vy useful for me) ! Best 73 to all John / F6HCC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:38 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136 kHz TA Hi John, thanks for the screenshots! I'm amazed that you can receive with an indoor loop. When I compared a = loop outdoors vs in the room, there was little loss of magnetic = fieldstrength, maybe one or two dB. But a lot of noise from devices in = the vicinity: laptops, router, DECT telephone, power supplies, lights - = it almost looked like anything that contains a transistor is noisy on LF = ;-) 73, Markus =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: f6hcc 56 An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mo, 14 Apr 2014 8:34 am Betreff: Re: LF: 136 kHz TA Hi All, Received last night DF2JP, DF6NM, DK7FC 73, John / F6HCC ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CF57E0.4AC096A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi Markus,
 
My indoor loop is just under the roof=20 (slates).
There is no metallic parts in the walls = and all=20 switching devices (supplies, fluo lights) are disconnected (no ADSL = here, only=20 4G).
The PC used for the capture do not = increase the=20 noise.
(The noises on the captures before = 22h30 yesterday=20 were caused by changes to the settings)
 
But, as said Stefan, I think that I = could improve=20 the receiving by the addition of a preamplifier.
(at present the noise is low, too = low... I=20 think)
I hope to finish this preamplifier = in a few=20 days.
 
Many thanks for your transmissions (vy = useful for=20 me) !
 
Best 73 to all
John / F6HCC
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 = 11:38=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 136 kHz = TA

Hi John,
 
thanks for=20 the screenshots!
 
I'm = amazed that=20 you can receive with an indoor loop. When I compared a loop outdoors = vs in the=20 room, there was little loss of magnetic fieldstrength, maybe = one or=20 two dB. But a lot of noise from devices in the vicinity: = laptops,=20 router, DECT telephone, power supplies, lights - it almost looked = like=20 anything that contains a transistor is noisy on LF ;-)

73, Markus

 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: = f6hcc 56=20 <f6hcc56@free.fr>
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Verschickt:=20 Mo, 14 Apr 2014 8:34 am
Betreff: Re: LF: 136 kHz TA

Hi All,
 
Received last night DF2JP, DF6NM,=20 DK7FC
 
73, John / F6HCC
 
 
 
 
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