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From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question Gary, G..,=20 Did you ever thought that i will download this program? ;-) I did. Was just transmitting the first sequence 478.875. Not sure if i did it correctly. Also the optocoupler which keys the PA = may need a parallel R. Will see in the evening. Questions: How can i disable that nerving key tone if i use the RS232 output = instead of a HF TRX? If i want to listen music during transmitting i = cannot disable it... Next, how can i disable the infos about opera stations of other bands? Why is the frequency range for 630m partly outside the range (i.e. = 478.6...479.8) ????=20 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: 2 hours in the night is for CW though :-) Am 10.07.2012 18:20, schrieb Gary G4WGT:=20 Hi Stefan, =20 If you download & install Opera you can click "Frequency" on the top = menu bar. This dropdown will show you the USB dial frequency & the = decode frequency range for each band. =20 Opera is not intended for random frequency use as the decode frequency = range is small. If you do choose another USB dial frequency for a test = or similar you will need to notify other users of your non-standard USB = dial frequency or no one will know you are transmitting there, very = similar to WSPR. =20 73. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:21:18 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: OPERA Question Opera experts,=20 I have a simple question to Opera. If the program keys a PTT of a PA = like a CW key and the operator can choose the frequency where he = transmits, what is the range of frequencies where a decode can be = expected from someone who set his RX to e.g. 477 kHz? Is it a USB = bandwidth, so maybe from 300...3000 Hz, i.e. 477.3...480 kHz?? Can i = completely free decide where i want to transmit on? And if someone decides to let Opera choose the transmit frequency in = that band (e.g. by using a HF TRX and a transverter), where does the = program usually transmit. Is is accidentially oder is the range much = more limited? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 10.07.2012 14:29, schrieb M0FMT:=20 Hi Graham I have found that if I run 24 Watts no body hears me. If I run one = Watt people hear me?? If I boost the 1 Watt rig to 4 Watts same rig = people don't hear me...... dohh! It may be RF into the Opera PIC keyer? = I will next time try screening the PIC keyer. But the thing is my PC = decodes everything.... why?? Any ideas? 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: M0FMT To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =20 Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012, 11:11 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? TNX FER RPRT Am now sending op4 on 500 at 1/2 intervals on the hour and 1/2 = hour very approx. Can you report please if available will try to keep it = on most of afternoon. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012, 18:51 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? Pete RX set 500.000 usb , running OP4 and WSPR rx at the = moment =20 GL !... G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? Hi all While you are all testing Graham's theory on optimum band usage = could you report my OP4 transmissions. I am using the stand alone PIC = 'JNT designed Opera keyer switching my all Valve (Tube for our Cousins) = TX. Power now increased to four (4) Watts O/P from the original = 1Watt at the antenna up lead. Antenna up lead abt 40 ft x 128ft long = E/W. from IO91UX. 73 Pete M0fmt. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01CD5EFC.93AEFA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
 
I think  Gary  has all  the  answers  ok = ?
 
73 -G..

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question

Gary, G..,

Did you ever thought that i will = download this=20 program? ;-) I did.
Was just transmitting the first sequence = 478.875.
Not=20 sure if i did it correctly. Also the optocoupler which keys the PA may = need a=20 parallel R. Will see in the evening.

Questions:
How can i = disable that=20 nerving key tone if i use the RS232 output instead of a HF TRX? If i = want to=20 listen music during transmitting i cannot disable it...
Next, how can = i=20 disable the infos about opera stations of other bands?
Why is the = frequency=20 range for 630m partly outside the range (i.e. 478.6...479.8) ???? =

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

PS: 2 hours in the night is for CW though = :-)

Am=20 10.07.2012 18:20, schrieb Gary G4WGT:=20
Hi Stefan,
 
If you download & install = Opera you=20 can click "Frequency" on the top menu bar. This dropdown = will show=20 you the USB dial frequency & the decode frequency range for = each=20 band.
 
Opera is not intended for random frequency use = as the=20 decode frequency range is small. If you do choose another USB=20 dial frequency for a test or similar you will need to = notify=20 other users of your non-standard USB dial frequency or no one = will know=20 you are transmitting there, very similar to=20 WSPR.
 
73.
 
Gary - G4WGT.
 
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:21:18 +0200
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup= .uni-heidelberg.de
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 LF: OPERA Question

Opera experts,

I have a simple = question to=20 Opera. If the program keys a PTT of a PA like a CW key and the = operator can=20 choose the frequency where he transmits, what is the range of = frequencies=20 where a decode can be expected from someone who set his RX to e.g. 477 = kHz? Is=20 it a USB bandwidth, so maybe from 300...3000 Hz, i.e. 477.3...480 = kHz?? Can i=20 completely free decide where i want to transmit on?
And if someone = decides=20 to let Opera choose the transmit frequency in that band (e.g. by using = a HF=20 TRX and a transverter), where does the program usually transmit. Is is = accidentially oder is the range much more limited?

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC


Am 10.07.2012 14:29, schrieb M0FMT:=20
Hi Graham
 
I have found that if I run 24 Watts no body hears me. If I run = one Watt=20 people hear me?? If I boost the 1 Watt rig to 4 Watts same = rig people=20 don't hear me...... dohh! It may be RF into the Opera PIC keyer? I = will next=20 time try screening the PIC keyer. But the thing is my PC decodes=20 everything.... why?? Any ideas?
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=20
Sent: Tuesday, = 10 July=20 2012, 11:11
Subject: Re:=20 LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ?

TNX FER RPRT
Am now sending op4 on 500 at 1/2 intervals on the hour and = 1/2 hour=20 very approx. Can you report please if available will try to keep = it on=20 most of afternoon.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Monday, 9 July = 2012,=20 18:51
Subject: Re: LF:=20 OPERA MONITOR Now ?

Pete
 
RX set  500.000  usb ,   = running  =20 OP4  and   WSPR  rx  at the  = moment =20
 
GL !... G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ?

Hi all
While you are all testing Graham's theory on optimum band = usage=20 could you report my OP4 transmissions. I am using the stand = alone PIC=20 'JNT designed Opera keyer switching my all Valve (Tube for our = Cousins)=20 TX.
Power now increased to four (4) Watts O/P from the original = 1Watt=20 at the antenna up lead. Antenna up lead abt 40 ft x 128ft long = E/W. from=20 IO91UX.
73 Pete M0fmt.
73 es GL Pete M0FMT=20 IO91UX
 

    =20 =




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