Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB3Lqj0D008660 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2015 22:52:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a4blJ-0007sA-5O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:50:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a4blI-0007ro-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:50:00 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a4bk7-0005ci-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:49:58 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.250]) by mwinf5d41 with ME id p9oS1r0025Q2phr039oSup; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 22:48:27 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 22:48:27 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.250 Message-ID: <9351DE536C5F45ACBBD6617F2336CF48@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2BDA5A@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2BDA5A@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:48:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: ea563abf4a6f6bcc595ed299b802c617 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5535 Luis , G3XKR posted this to the yahoo group - what power level was this ?? on 01 DEC 2015 00:34 477 EA5DOM Op8 -30 dB |---- -- | Fade: 8% Nothing yet , 73-G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:40 AM To: Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > > Hi Graham, MF > > Much worse conditions last night. I even checked the RMS voltage over 50R > load > to see if the attenuator was not working correctly, but there were the > 11mW > > Only two WSPR spots from Andy at limit > > 2015-12-02 23:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -32 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 > 2015-12-02 21:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -30 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 > > I saw the report from G3XKR on PskReporter but nothing via Opera server > Probably due to the old software version used by G3XKR ?? > > Anyway VERY good Rx there ! :-) > > Will keep at 11mW for the moment > > 73 de Luis > EA5DOM > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham > Enviado el: jueves, 03 de diciembre de 2015 1:12 > Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > > > Rx at Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:46:11 GMT > From EA5DOM by G3XKR Loc IO70UX > Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -31dB > Distance: 1418 km bearing 348° > Using: Opera v1.5.4/Rptr V1.6 > Antenna: RX Op8 > > V 1-5-4 pre dynamic ? > > 73-G, > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Tony Baldwin" > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:25 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > >> I'm on 477 opera as well as 474.2 WSPR I shall leave it monitoring >> both all night 73, Tony, EI8JK >> >> On 02-Dec-15 19:08, Graham wrote: >>> Still big signals Luis ! >>> >>> We know from the Vampire tests , what should happen, but , there is no >>> accurate way of telling who is actually running Rx on 477 now, >>> since the psk-map changed the housekeeping routines ... >>> >>> Im Rx 477 at the moment , only see your local decode's at the >>> moment >>> >>> 73-G, >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:51 AM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>>> No more DX last night at 11mW >>>> >>>> One spot from F5WK and many more from Andy F1AFJ >>>> >>>> Maxi, EA5CV got a few at -28dB and being just 60Km away but with a >>>> sub optimal Rx No other EA station got copy >>>> >>>> No Opera spots. Monitors were too far, probably >>>> >>>> There were few TA spots across north atlantic. So, conditions were >>>> not bad Will keep Txing at this power level untill finishing the PA >>>> install at terrace >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 23:11 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Wellcome to the 11mW challenge, Clemens :-) >>>> >>>> F5WK joined the party with just one spot but breaking the distance >>>> mark to 1192km >>>> >>>> 2015-12-01 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98wn >>>> 0.01 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355 >>>> >>>> Andy has 8 spots so far. And one as good as -20dB !! >>>> >>>> 2015-12-01 21:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -20 0 IM98wn >>>> 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>>> >>>> You are at 1515Km. A real edge for such a weak signal ?? >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Clemens Paul >>>> [cpaul@gmx.net] >>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 22:54 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Hello Luis, >>>> >>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of room for >>>>> Opera Deep Search spots >>>>> >>>>> Any other taker ? >>>> >>>> I'll give it a try tonight. >>>> RX and WSPR are running now. >>>> I know I can compete with DH5RAE and DJ0ABR regarding WSPR spots >>>> (RX-wise). >>>> I'm also quite out in the sticks... >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> Clemens >>>> DL4RAJ >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of VIGILANT >>>>> Luis Fernández >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:17 PM >>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> Wow. We have a winner >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations Andy ! Fantastic spots -25dB using only 11mW here >>>>> >>>>> 2015-12-01 19:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>> 919 4 >>>>> 2015-12-01 19:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>> 919 4 >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of room for >>>>> Opera Deep Search spots >>>>> >>>>> Any other taker ? >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 16:23 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK Graham, there we are ! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> 0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW >>>>> >>>>> Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from EA5CV >>>>> which were about -25dB are nill now >>>>> >>>>> Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will get >>>>> some spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during the night, but for >1000Km >>>>> paths it will be very hard, depending on propagation conditions and >>>>> noise floor >>>>> >>>>> WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to 0,01w >>>>> >>>>> Make your bet ! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Getting there Luis ! >>>>> >>>>> Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH , >>>>> >>>>> Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good , >>>>> you need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with 8% >>>>> fade , but, signal must be holding up ... >>>>> >>>>> 73-G, >>>>> >>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM >>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> Hi MF >>>>> >>>>> Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation >>>>> conditions lowered extra dBs >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search >>>>> -37dB from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km >>>>> >>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir >>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Devon >>>>> >>>>> 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB >>>>> in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>> 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir >>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>> >>>>> In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: >>>>> >>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>> 1576 39 >>>>> >>>>> 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>> 1556 39 >>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux >>>>> 1419 348 >>>>> 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192 >>>>> 355 >>>>> >>>>> Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? >>>>> :-O >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Let's go step by step >>>>> >>>>> 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW >>>>> >>>>> Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .. May be 10 dB at least ! >>>>> >>>>> G, >>>>> >>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM >>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> >>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>> >>>>> Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really outstanding >>>>> :-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at 7Km >>>>> when injecting -33dBm >>>>> >>>>> Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from DH5RAE >>>>> and DJ0ABR >>>>> >>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>> 1556 39 >>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol >>>>> 59 261 >>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 >>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>> 1576 39 >>>>> >>>>> I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it when I >>>>> get home in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx power >>>>> indicator and Opera info to notice the change >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham >>>>> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Luis >>>>> >>>>> That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought >>>>> you where running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji >>>>> >>>>> 73-G, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG >>>>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB >>>>> >>>>> All OP8 decodes from psk-map >>>>> >>>>> EA5DOM SO5AS >>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>> 2210 km 18:10:11 >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> SV8CS-5 600m >>>>> OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 >>>>> SV8CS EA5DOM >>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>> 1819 km 19:20:11 >>>>> EA5DOM EI8JK >>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>> 1633 km 18:46:12 >>>>> EA5DOM G8HUH >>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>> 1430 km 18:22:12 >>>>> EA5DOM G3XKR >>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>> 1420 km 23:10:11 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM >>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> >>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Tony >>>>> >>>>> That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for keeping your monitor working >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> >>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony >>>>> Baldwin Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. >>>>> I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try >>>>> different power levels again. >>>>> 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >