Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-ba249710cdd1c1; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba249710cdd1c1; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LNxMK-0008CB-RX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:40:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LNxMK-0008C2-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:40:12 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LNxMJ-0008R4-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:40:12 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.bd3.37f1e6b0 (34941) for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g230032141.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.230.32.141]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA052-887d49710cc19f; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:02 -0500 Message-ID: <911594ED7C1D4B26B5837454C7755ADE@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <1232113286.49708e86184e6@imp.netikka.net> <1232126050.4970c0624a547@imp.netikka.net> <1232134087.4970dfc7cee7f@imp.netikka.net> <5F937BA9D0D942329876D744EEA50684@JimPC> <1232137029.4970eb4596cae@imp.netikka.net> <019401c9781c$03d88a30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1232139746.4970f5e2b7112@imp.netikka.net> <01dc01c97820$8bb5e4d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1232142062.4970feeee5eb9@imp.netikka.net> In-Reply-To: <1232142062.4970feeee5eb9@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:40:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: QRG & MSG UPDATE: 136kHz test from OH1LSQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Paul-Henrik, similar to F1AFJ and others, I usually have two narrowband "transatlantic" grabber windows running 24 hours around 137.777 for W-E and 136.318 for E-W, which are useful for QRSS 30 or slower modes. There is also a strip near 137.700 to capture some of the QRSS3 activity. The "space" (upper) frequencies of DCF39 and HGA22 during their telegrams are 139.17 and 135.77 kHz. At baudrate multiples (n * 200 Hz) from these, there are gaps in the FSK sidebands, eg. at 137.77, 137.57, 137.37,... and 135.97, 136.17, etc. However during the afternoon and darkness hours, the advantage of these gaps is often compromised by the increased level of Luxembourg sidebands on the otherwise quiet "mark" carriers 138.83 and 135.43 kHz. Good luck Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: QRG & MSG UPDATE: 136kHz test from OH1LSQ Hello Mal, LF I will consider a new frequency for tomorrow, right now I know some people have set up their systems logging overnight in the hope to find something there in the morning and I can only want to make short excursions elsewhere. Keep the QRG suggestions coming. How about 136.80 or 137.00kHz? I'm not familiar with the LORAN QRM etc. you are experiencing there. 136.50kHz got thumbs down already yesterday so it needs to be higher than that. 73's Paul-Henrik