Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10939 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 02:13:22 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 02:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17028 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 02:15:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 02:15:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 186iNG-00024V-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:14:26 +0000 Received: from [195.197.172.113] (helo=kura.mail.jippii.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 186iNF-00024M-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:14:25 +0000 Received: from pmk2 (DVII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.74.4.207]) by kura.mail.jippii.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 897A16F707; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:14:23 +0200 (EET) From: "Paul Keinanen" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Alan.Melia@btinternet.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:15:53 +0200 Message-ID: <8gfurucham8vvs0r2tp26c8qdaaffa9nb5@4ax.com> References: <001001c27fa0$78e71420$4e60063e@main> In-reply-to: <001001c27fa0$78e71420$4e60063e@main> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: sound cards...well amybe if..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05version=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:08:21 -0000, "Alan Melia" wrote: >Hi Alberto, we are all jumping on you for your over-enthusiasm........but it >occurs to me that this is a 24bit card....than may be more significant. It >has the potential to give the level of s/n we might need. > >Could not the dreaded aliasing be used to benificial effect, or am I missing >some subtle point. It occurs to me that a 96ksps sampler will 'fold back' >136kHz to 40kHz....so if any anti-aliasing filter could be disabled (I >think, where used, these are normally passive rather than active ?).....it >might be possible to have a software 136kHz RX !! >THERE is a CHALLENGE for you software gurus !! >I will await my idea to be shot down in flames, before I conside buying one >of CL new audigy units !! >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com One could think about using decimation, in which the band is limited by passive filters to say 125 kHz to 145 kHz, but as far as I understand, in order to use decimation, you need a sample & hold circuit ahead of the ADC with the sample time less than a half cycle time at 135kHz (or about 3 us, preferably even less), while the hold time should be the same as the ADC conversion time. In this example, even 48 kHz ADC sample rate would be sufficient, but how do you control an external sample&hold circuit from a sound card ? Paul OH3LWR