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(VPS 120921-0, 21/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mmmmm I cant say I have had that experience. I have built 40 to 50 pcbs for the Radio Astronomy group I belong to with no problems. I use a hotter tip and 0.4mm 99.2%Sn solder. Boards (nearly all through-hole) have been in use for 3 to 4 years and I have no returns due to joint failure. I will agree 60/40 is easier and does look nicer. I think from what I hear the problems are with commercial "bulk" soldering not manual soldering. Like all things some skill must be acquired to make a nice job. I use a Weller TCP iron.. 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I have built 40 to 50 pcbs for the Radio Astronomy group I belong to with no problems. I use a hotter tip and 0.4mm 99.2%Sn solder. Boards (nearly all through-hole) have been in use for 3 to 4 years and I have no returns due to joint failure. I will agree 60/40 is easier and does look nicer. I think from what I hear the problems are with commercial "bulk" soldering not manual soldering. Like all things some skill must be acquired to make a nice job. I use a Weller TCP iron.. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "IZ2JGB Giorgio Barinetti" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:38 PM Subject: LF: R: Homebrew stuff Hi Stefan. The lead-free solder is working but compared to the leaded one is really brittle. Lead give flexibility to the soldered joint. Anyway if you want to try , buy a suitable tip and use it ony for leaded free. (like petrol... hi) Don't mix as they don't match. 73, Giorgio. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Per conto di Stefan Schäfer Inviato: venerdì 21 settembre 2012 0.05 A: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Oggetto: LF: Homebrew stuff I like the homebrew suff pictures :-) There is quite individual ways to build the equipment. Many use the copper plates as a board, i prefer the breadboard since i grew up with it :-) That's my todays work, under construction: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/SDC1.JPG An add-on to my LF PA. Guess what it is?! :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: What do people think about lead-free solder? I considered to try it but not sure if this is a good idea... Am 20.09.2012 22:11, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > This evening, my WSPR tests are with the latest version of my homebrew > transverter, designed to be used with QRP rigs like the FT817 in > "split" mode. The transmitter operates around 3.7MHz and transverts > down to either 472 or 500kHz. On RX, the transverter simply passes the > RX signal through to the FT817 which is used on 472/500kHz. This makes > for a very simple yet effective design. > > I reverted to a double balanced mixer (SBL1 or ADE-1 or similar) for > the TX mixer and this has made the design very stable and reliable > now. The PA and ATU coils are air wound in the GW3UEP style on 22mm > PVC pipe. The whole unit fits in a small plastic box. > > Already WSPR reports are coming through from PA, G, GW despite the use > of my short vertical tuned against a copper water tank ground and > resonated with a tapped coil on a ferrite rod. Signal levels from some > suggest CW QSOs should be OK. > > Details of the transverter are available on my website and on my blog > at > . > > I hope this little circuit encourages a few newcomers to try the new > band in due course. For now tests continue on 500kHz and further > reports would be much appreciated. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5281 - Data di rilascio: 20/09/2012