Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.5]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-5ee94cfa575a18e; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:59:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1D5CA380000A3; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 09:59:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1POtZG-0007fK-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:58:30 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1POtZF-0007fB-P7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:58:29 +0000 Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1POtZC-0004ep-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:58:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oB4EwGol003323 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 09:58:17 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4d074997.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.73.151]) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 4C970E0000B6 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 09:58:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8A7135FF73554D3C97313398DEF5F1D4@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20101204121003.21500@gmx.net> <389E76EAA5D549219C7FBE20DF6B60D4@IBM7FFA209F07C> <274815ED-0028-4736-BA46-7F332A596495@numeo.fr> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:58:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: UT vs CET / CEST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CB93CC.1DDE23E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40054cfa57581f62 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CB93CC.1DDE23E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, my idea was that UT (unlike UK time) does not switch during= the summer? So CEST was UT+2, and CET is UT+1. Forgetting to readjust= the SpecLab offset in autumn would result in a timescale which is an= hour early. 73, Markus From: John Rabson=20 Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 3:32 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 8970 Stefan started 11:04 UTC On 4 Dec 2010, at 15:04CET, Markus Vester wrote: > as far as I can see, the transmission on 8970 started at 12:02 UT.= There may=20 > have been an error due to the change in UT - CET difference after th= e end of=20 > daylight saving time. There is no change. CET is always 1 hr in advance of UTC. In winter= most of Western Europe is on CET (MEZ auf Deutsch). In the spring th= ey put the clocks forward 1hr and are on CEST (MESZ auf Deutsch?). =20 The problem is that some TV companies - including BBC World (who ought= to know better) - fail to correct the time code they show on screen.= =20 John F5VLF ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CB93CC.1DDE23E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi John, my idea was that UT (un= like UK time)=20 does not switch during the summer? So CEST was UT+2, and CET=  is=20 UT+1. Forgetting to readjust the SpecLab offset in= =20 autumn would result in a timescale which is an hour=20 early.
 
73, Markus

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 8970 Stefan started 11:04 UTC
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On 4 Dec 2010,= at 15:04CET, Markus Vester=20 wrote:

> as far as I can see, the transmission on 8970 start= ed at=20 12:02 UT. There may
> have been an error due to the change in= UT - CET=20 difference after the end of
> daylight saving time.

Ther= e is no=20 change.  CET is always 1 hr in advance of UTC.  In winter mo= st of=20 Western Europe is on CET (MEZ auf Deutsch).  In the spring they= put the=20 clocks forward 1hr and are on CEST (MESZ auf Deutsch?). 

= The=20 problem is that some TV companies - including BBC World (who ought to= know=20 better) - fail to correct the time code they show on screen.

J= ohn=20 F5VLF



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