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[82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k8sm2528874wrc.12.2017.04.06.08.19.46 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wilson X-Google-Original-From: Chris Wilson Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:19:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <876597267.20170406161946@gmail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 3b8620872b19e25fb6f4dfaf1256edc3 Subject: LF: Wilkinson combiners Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v36FNpUA018849 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11121 Hello LF'ers, I am experimenting with two cheaply made Class D push pull 136kHz amps using very cheap to buy (well under £2 each) FET's combined using a home brew Wilkinson combiner as per this web page. I am using two very big wire wound ceramic resistors of 50 Ohm each in series for "R" which look very very similar to those Steve VE7SL is using in the photo he publishes on this page. http://ve7sl.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/630m-wilkinson-power-combiner.html I used the on line calculator at http://leleivre.com/rf_wilkinson.html to build the air cored coils that are bang on 81.82 uH at 137.55 kHz and caps of 16.4nF (12nF with two 2.2nF in parallel)I used my AIM4170 to check the coil winding with it outputting 137.5 kHz. What I am seeing is each amp giving a nice (well, they seem nice to me...) drain and gate waveforms individually, but when combined both waveforms deteriorate and the cold running FET's and output transformers heat up quite dramatically. I need to rebuild the lashed up combiner with much shorter lead lengths, (for example the caps made from parallelled film caps are across the input and output sockets, and not right by the coil formers, and it's just sat on the bench, not on a ground plane). But are there any other things I need to look at if a tidying it up doesn't fix this? The amps share a common PSU, but have independent driver circuits. W1VD has a different type of combiner, shown here http://www.w1vd.com/137-500-500WCombiner.pdf and I have the ferrites to try this type, but haven't built it yet, what are the merits of each type please? Thanks. 2E0ILY -- Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY