Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x0PHF0RF030913 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:15:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gn4wo-0006zB-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:07:18 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gn4wd-0006z2-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:07:07 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gn4wZ-0001Z8-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:07:06 +0000 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.223.10.168]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lz3nU-1hHzuw1iPw-014COA for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:07:02 +0100 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <1UTCTNxG9H.5T3bfQF3xD0@optiplex980-pc> <9C9C8088-AD45-4DDF-BD7E-66D13F0D835C@md.metrocast.net> <5C4B1BD5.6010404@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5C4B1BD5.6010404@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: <8558A6E06BEB4E7D8AE25FBB1D0399DF@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdS0ufySKjIo2Wz7STiODx3iPEJsgAAFiy8Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:b/ZlI6Zyln9k9pvmQ9m5jIgQMtZ+yil57opLJtWgKJPyiqLddCT IvW8HBwH7jDu8YfKysBUN1k7a2HnOcPpRcE9FH7VjlV+uEuM3jGxKKiB+RCds1aOFf4/nTI ConoNl90B3AQ6BN4fv3HaAO/zTnpN/jotzU01o9n46n8wmU7P4BNpzIjCbIhSVVtPSsy8Sl wHFQKVNiTszQr+azSYMZA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:SUu1tT2YE+k=:RcSkt8Slv7f+MpdWtfg5b9 V3R21wGDM+l04t7/vZRVC87/seTby9ZV9/iFoRDdFr9f/w/6HbworQC4Y5BEjGsdGRUUQEiYL s2zkQX4B3Q05P0AXzkZRvQkRlov0I+7DwmUcFABbqHFuYiWiDpO44LWhM2LW/So1LofSX7l3y W28V0FJvoqGjNo69xXm3jmvrShwp6oc8LV7J5j98+VZcmmzyaZXmd1y7EPqOifUhySDXeqCB7 soxBZ+slfWLjinBHDCMHjQgGkrTmL7BvKOyyrBfU5NAp2KmMiJsqlFHPhBTQN+CaQVKH7La4Q zaC1edmxq5NfHvvmxmTDFugMtTkCUvqlaikXDsoTWNZZTB2Xn8AEazAEjDxPJjf/AflCh1GF4 O+tTNnDdxtIfnkSGnw/pIzzNM/k4Ba23nE0qpyrjgN1BvocUJIi8SEfRchZ0nDYsd4ScMd0e+ 4UPh2JQlv2VeqxJguDkdCsoFrdDtEIg1GCVDJci16TqsyK9h70QAFv/Dt9zfhiWIfk1Bqgc04 SEYUCK/g4pIIAwSsQZHbBcT+hO2veXLpLmtMGZY1v793bbk1mZ6joWJXy5FJzouuhkVSANp/h X3GtTUVF6/EaFWBF8uEC1wbZswXJi0Ghnu0g9MZuyVfmrAu99Cc+ScycCF0HYWMjszXtl5ql9 OloYiV1CZ2nqSEUP5gJNVf8EhdNfL0xSMrik3RTyiWdMj+ujjZX12WCt9smYaJEX6tEtkd58w 4Nbo0rBR7ibeZBMixBdr4zILl+aRywDZbliQq7dYF0sAtEIra+ENPR3/LpBP3k3mqziBopgZK mDuT4qMXjy0PlsAEn1j/RrJFhttsBMpu2Ad0whJimX6KbFuqEHk0WsA6u6nVmEGWj4GjmE9FW iTwn5QlNgCci4Z7n1AYnqhN1RhUJ2pRbFTZCkyLxE1DFPAhDZo4KQkQemHgUfx X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Hi Stefan, so far I seem to be the only spotter. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ 2019-01-25 16:58 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.18 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (cpaul[at]gmx.net) X-Scan-Signature: 17343f7e400f1005b5081acbd4115359 Subject: LF: RE: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id x0PHF0RF030913 Hi Stefan, so far I seem to be the only spotter. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ 2019-01-25 16:58 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:34 DK7FC 0.475683 -18 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:28 DK7FC 0.475683 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:22 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:16 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:10 DK7FC 0.475683 -18 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 16:04 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:34 DK7FC 0.475683 -19 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:28 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 15:04 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 14:58 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 14:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 14:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -22 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 2019-01-25 14:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DK7FC >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 3:23 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop > >Hi MF, > >A few days ago i took some RF litz wire and built a loop that is now >hanging on the wall inside my home, just 1m besides the bed >:-) (no XYL >here spoiling the fun). The loop is beaming to about 150/330 deg. > >After playing some days on 160m (an unusual high frequency, >witch feels >very strange. And the band is full of unknown callsigns!!) i did now >move down to more or less low frequencies, the 630m band! > >About 10 nF is needed to series resonate the loop. It has >about 2m x 2m >of size. The antenna current is not stable because the WIMA FKP-1 >capacitor becomes warm during the 2 minute WSPR sequence. But the >maximum current in the loop is 14 A. That explains why the cap becomes >warm. A small parallel variable capacitor tunes to resonance. It is >tuned so that the upheating capacitor runs into the resonance point in >the middle of the WSPR sequence, then it runs out of the resonance by >upheating further. It can cool down during the following quiet >periods.. > >14A into a 4 square meter loop at 475.7 kHz, how much ERP is that? The >PA consumes about 3.5 A at 13.8V, i.e. about 50 W. > >The system will run over the weekend, even during daylight. The signal >generator is a Raspi which will have no internet connectivity from now >on, so let's hope the time offset stays inside the accepted range for >this experiment. > >What will the best distance be? So far the band is closed but i'm >optimistic to crack the 1000 km distance with this QRP setup. > >73, Stefan > > >--- >Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >http://www.avg.com >