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(VPS 111102-0, 02/11/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:497146816:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60564eb19c945c22 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Starting to read like the script for the Hit in Pulp Fiction .... Ezekiel 25:17 -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:15 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > > Warren > A magazine I expect that I am not familiar with > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > > > Mal, > > Matthew 5:5 > King James version > > 73 Warren > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM, mal hamilton > wrote: >> Correct !! especially over your way but in the UK the Appliance Operator >> punter thinks only in terms of uWatts. Just read the emails on here. >> de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Warren Ziegler" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >> >> >> Mal, >> >> I know some hams here that seem interested in 500kHz but when >> they find out the ARRL experimental license is for 20W ERP CW, PSK and >> WSPR on a total band of 27kHz they lose interest. >> >> I image that even fewer will be interested in 5W and 8 kHz >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, mal hamilton > wrote: >>> Warren >>> At the present time it is a Bodge anyway. I can understand the >>> commercial >>> interest, also a lot of Hams are not really interested in the band. >>> There >>> are only about 3 UK stns that I hear on the odd time in QSO mode, a few >>> others around EU are belching out beacons and QSL via internet, hardly >>> impressive to those that issue Permits. If the plug was pulled I would > not >>> be too concerned because 160 metres is similar but has a big occupancy >> with >>> QSO MODE being the norm, mostly CW with some SSB. >>> On LF it is the same tale, although this is now an International band >> there >>> is very little interest, in fact the band occupancy has gone down over > the >>> years. >>> It is now the same half dozen on the band daily and mostly Beacon mode > qsl >>> via internet. The odd QRS 600000000000 does take place but virtually no >> CW. >>> At present I would say that LF es MF is a total waste of time and effort >>> I have 4 nice Decca amps Hi Band for 137 going Rusty!!!!!!! in spite of >> this >>> I am still using my 1Kw h/brew. CQ on CW but no replies. >>> >>> mal/g3kev >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Warren Ziegler" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >>> >>> >>> Mal, >>> >>> The maritime industry trade group has been pushing back against >>> hams on 500kHz in the hope that they can persuade governments to fund >>> a new relatively broadband data service there. >>> The maritime group has standing with CEPT and the ITU and they >>> apparently have money and effective lobbyists behind them, the hams on >>> the other hand are left to pick up scraps that fall off the table and >>> are expected to be thankful for them! >>> >>> -- >>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ >>> WD2XSH/23 >>> WE2XEB/2 >>> WE2XGR/1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mal hamilton >> wrote: >>>> MF >>>> How did they arrive at that frequency range? No where near where we are >> at >>>> present. New VFO'S and Xtals etc >>>> de mal/g3kev >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Warren Ziegler" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM >>>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Laurence, >>>> >>>> 5 Watts? Do we get to have 40 channels and use a 'power mic' with >>>> reverb? >>>> Come On! >>>> >>>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Laurence KL7UK >>>> wrote: >>>>> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group >>>>> held >>> in >>>>> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal >>>>> was >>>>> agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and > was >>>>> passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the amateur > service >>>>> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit of >> 5W >>>>> eirp. >>>>> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT. >>>>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who >>>> participated >>>>> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this >>>>> proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who >>>>> helped to influence their national administrations in this matter. >>>>> Now for WRC-12. >>>>> Colin, G3PSM >>>>> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Laurence KL7UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>>> WD2XGJ >>>> WD2XSH/23 >>>> WE2XEB/2 >>>> WE2XGR/1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > >