Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b724aca63f535c; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:24:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b724aca63f535c; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:24:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Muv1i-0007H0-2U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:23:26 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Muv1g-0007Gf-Oa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:23:24 +0100 Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.145]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Muv1S-0008FJ-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:23:15 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFABsAykqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCKC2ICYJzxEeBeIIyBIFS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,508,1249223400"; d="scan'208,217";a="448738586" Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 06 Oct 2009 07:53:05 +1030 Message-ID: <7E251F1AC15249058A26CE883F646590@HPt680a> From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <1f0624b90910050228j683a0698nbd2f7129453fed9d@mail.gmail.com> <5366955AF11F40518FB761BA5C4799EB@HPt680a> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:23:04 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA465E.3A260200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA465E.3A260200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, Thanks Graham. See my post to Gary for an explanation of what I had= in mind. Please note - it was not my intent to have a whinge - I was just puzzl= ed more than anything else... It is all a bit academic anyway - going on past behaviour it will be= another decade before we get access (if at all) to 600M down here. = The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to getting new bands approved as us= ual. Thanks. 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:25 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Steve=20 You spotted the deliberate mistake ... the grabber page on the = group is sort of maintained .. but everything is running on a as an= d when basis . I added the pages when they where live .. but as you= can see .. not all are now running ...and as for the beacons ..= e'rrrrr well permanent beacons are not allowed .. except G4JNT= who is now running dual mode .(need to get the final power level= for wspr).. and so on into the night .. If anyone has a live 500 grabber that they would like to list on= the page , please email the web link and I will add it to the 'to= p' of the page .. or if you find one let 'us' know !=20 tnx - Graham G0NBD From: VK2ZTO=20 Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... G'day Gary, There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here= down under in VK-land.... Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect". From the links on the Google site I get the following results. 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009. 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008. 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008. 4. GM4ISM - can't connect. 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008. 6. RN3AGC - can't connect. The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link= . What am I missing ? 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Hi Steve,=20 A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO G'day All, In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting= details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. = To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking fo= r relevant local grabbers for those beacons. 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Graham,
 
Thanks Graham.  See my post to= Gary for an=20 explanation of what I had in mind.
 
Please note - it was not my intent to= have a whinge=20 - I was just puzzled more than anything else...
 
It is all a bit academic anyway - goi= ng on past=20 behaviour it will be another decade before we get access (if at all)= to 600M=20 down here.    The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to gettin= g new=20 bands approved as usual.
 
Thanks.
 
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 20= 09 3:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacon= s and=20 grabbers....

Steve
 
You spotted the  deliberate&nb= sp; mistake=20 ...  the grabber page on the  group is sort of maintained= ..=20 but  everything is running  on a as and when basis = . I added=20 the pages when they where live .. but  as you  can see&nbs= p; ..=20 not  all are now  running ...and as for the  beacons= =20 .. e'rrrrr   well  permanent beacons  are not&nb= sp;=20 allowed .. except G4JNT who is now running  dual mode .(need to=   get=20 the  final power level for  wspr).. and so on into the&nbs= p;=20 night  ..
 
If anyone has a live 500 grabber th= at they=20 would  like to  list  on the page , please  emai= l=20 the  web link and I will add  it  to the 't= op' =20 of the   page .. or if you  find one  let 'us'= know !=20
 
tnx - Graham
 
G0NBD
 
 
 

From: VK2ZTO
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....

G'day Gary,
 
There currently seems to be a rend= in the=20 time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....
 
Apart from your site - for which I= get a "can't=20 connect".
 
From the links on the Google= site I get the=20 following results.
 
1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=20 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
 
The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
 
What am I missing ?
 
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Monday, October 05,= 2009 8:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beac= ons and=20 grabbers....

Hi Steve,=20

A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-=


Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-=


73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
G'day Al= l,

In an expression of extreme optimism I=20 am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QR= SS30 and=20 slower) in Europe.    To get real-time confirmation of= on-air=20 status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those= =20 beacons.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20



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