Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67488 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2004 08:39:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2004 08:39:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 79086 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2004 08:46:48 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2004 08:46:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B4FeR-000KRn-Em for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:46:47 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B4Fdp-00024m-BG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:46:09 +0000 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B4Fdo-00024d-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:46:08 +0000 Received: from relay.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.49] helo=relay.dstl.gov.uk) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B4NYZ-00042n-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:13:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 4501 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2004 08:46:03 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: unknown Received: from unknown (HELO warlock.dstl.gov.uk) (192.5.29.10) by relay.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2004 08:46:03 +0000 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D01A9F49A@mail.dstl.gov.uk> From: Talbot Andrew To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:45:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: RE: Re: not exactly LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Both stations would have been using locked sources - to GPS I presume - so getting the few Hz accuracy wouldn't have been any problem. "Up there", the issue becomes more one of getting the phase noise and jitter down on the frequency/phase locking circuitry rather than frequency itself. Here QRSS can actually help as the processing filters out any phase noise and sidebands more than a few Hz from the carrier, so provided the frequency locking PLL(s) for the , master oscillator and RF source oscillator have bandwidths greater than the signalling bandwidth to keep close in phase noise down, all will work fine. Locked microwave sources end up being more difficult for SSB than for narrow band modes ! Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] Sent: 2004 March 18 23:12 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: not exactly LF Hi Rik the mind boggles a bit when you think of the stability required for QRSS up there even 3 sec dot mode. Still I suppose it all relative and you can read QRSS even if it "zips across" the screen, and need retuning. Freddie was demo'ing SpecLab at one of the recent Martlesham uWave events. I think he was suggesting it as a beacon monitor. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: 18 March 2004 21:59 Subject: LF: not exactly LF > It's not exactly LF, but W2SZ/4 and WA1ZMS/4 claim a new world record > on 241GHz ... using QRSS. > See : http://www.mgef.org/zms_241_vucc.htm > > Nice to see that a mode that has his origin on LF found it's way to > the other end of the spectrum (although some might regret that "the > disease" is speading) > > 73, Rik ON7YD "This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely upon this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail." "Recipients should note that all e-mail traffic on MOD systems is subject to monitoring and auditing."