Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E162238000089; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R7SI8-0000Su-V5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:16 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R7SI8-0000Sl-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:16 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.128] (helo=smtp5.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R7SI6-000551-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:16 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 10DD91C000B2 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:29:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F14931C000B3 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:29:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [2.26.14.249]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B73F91C000B2 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:29:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20110924132908750.B73F91C000B2@mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7CB875068ADA4BFFB6771D84CD302329@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000a01cc7942$09fbef90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><433A1E6B2B1A4FA895223B81346E0F1C@HughLaptop><1316725280.28680.YahooMailNeo@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><005701cc79f0$03b865b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><1316785633.82128.YahooMailNeo@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7377A62C2A1C406BA847CED9605C0F74@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110924-0, 24/09/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,INTERRUPTUS=0.533,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Amazement As Speed Of Light 'Is Broken' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01CC7AC6.5210FCA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:414852032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4e7ddb582383 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CC7AC6.5210FCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tempting . but how do you then explain the 'bits' that arrived on = time .. =20 From: Andy Talbot=20 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Amazement As Speed Of Light 'Is Broken' Or could it just be they haven't measured the distance from CERN to = Italy accurately enough ? 'jnt =20 On 24 September 2011 13:13, Graham wrote: There seems to be a lot of 'constants' that are maintained by = the old boys network ...They have been 'observing' things = disappearing and re appearing in high energy exp's for quite a = while .. even back when 100's of large sheets of photographic film = was used as the 'detector' .. the idea light has slowed down was = floated years ago .. based on the idea , there is not enough = 'time' for the universe to of expanded to the 'size' it already is = , inferring , light was a little quicker back then . and will be = slower in the future ..... Cabbey of CFA antenna fame ran into = dispute with the exam invigilation over the questioning Maxwell's = equations , a certain problem with double usage of currant, (a = memorable opening statement by G2AVJ , 'everything was simple till = Maxwell buggered things up' tends to support this). .he is still = battling on with the cross field concept E/H etc .. cold fusion = came and went ...=20 =20 The usual foil being 'its a career stopper' , let's face it , = who is going to tell the funding people things like that ..until = the funding people have spent so much.. that need to believe they = have 'just' found some wonderful thing out to justify what = has been spent and the next + 1 big $ package ...... ZETA = anyone ? =20 G..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:47 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Amazement As Speed Of Light 'Is Broken' Hi All Now that silly season has really arrived. So what length do they = propose we cut our resonant dipoles to now? =20 Not to mention changing all the Amateur Band notations. Think of all = the Yaesu, Icom and Kenwoods being returned to have their front panel = band nomenclature corrected. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX47VN ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CC7AC6.5210FCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tempting . but how do you  = then  explain=20 the  'bits'   that  arrived  on time=20 ..  

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Amazement As Speed Of Light 'Is=20 Broken'

Or could it just be they haven't measured the distance from = CERN to=20 Italy accurately enough ?
 
'jnt


 
On 24 September 2011 13:13, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=20 wrote:
There  seems to  be a lot = of =20 'constants'  that  are  maintained by the  old = boys=20 network ...They  have been  'observing'   things =20 disappearing  and re appearing  in high  energy =20 exp's  for  quite a  while .. even back when  = 100's of=20  large sheets  of photographic  film  = was used as the=20 'detector'  ..  the idea  light  has slowed=20 down  was   floated  years  ago   = .. based=20 on the  idea  , there  is not enough 'time'  for = the=20 universe  to  of expanded to the 'size'  it =20 already  is , inferring , light was a  little  = quicker=20  back then . and  will  be slower  in = the =20 future  .....  Cabbey of  CFA antenna   fame = ran=20 into  dispute with the   = exam  invigilation =20 over the   questioning  Maxwell's  equations , a=20 certain  problem with  double usage  of  currant,=20  (a  memorable   opening  statement  by = G2AVJ ,=20 'everything  was  simple till  Maxwell  = buggered =20 things up' tends to  support this). .he is still  battling = on with=20 the  cross  field  concept  E/H =20 etc    .. cold fusion came and went = ... 
 
The  usual  =  foil  being  'its a  career stopper'  = ,=20 let's  face it  , who is  going to  tell  = the =20 funding  people things like that ..until  the  = funding =20 people  have  spent  so  much.. that = need to =20 believe they  have  'just'  found  some =20 wonderful   thing  out  to justify  = what  has=20 been   spent  and  the  next  + 1 =20 big  $  package ...... ZETA   = anyone ?  =20
 
G..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Amazement As Speed Of Light 'Is=20 Broken'

Hi All
 
Now that silly season has really arrived. So what = length do=20 they propose we cut our resonant dipoles to now?
 
Not to mention changing all the Amateur = Band notations. Think=20 of all the Yaesu, Icom and = Kenwoods=20 being returned to have their front=20 panel band nomenclature=20 corrected.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT = IO91UX47VN


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