X-GM-THRID: 1203115809032070620 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 34a0188a03040c7342ce46cf319a18e8740d8768 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs5521wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.246.4 with SMTP id t4mr2444215nfh; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si31751nfb.2006.05.15.12.41.16; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffirx-0006Sa-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:36:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffirx-0006SR-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:36:41 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfkO6-00063o-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:14:03 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate05.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id k4FJa4qh016714 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:30 +0200 Received: from [217.248.195.243] by freemailng1803.web.de with HTTP; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:29 +0200 Message-Id: <785635144@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.137 Subject: Re: LF: Transformer idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6959 Dear JB, best for transformer constructons is Jerry Sevicks Book Transmission Line = Transformers, W2FMI ARRL Publications.=20 1. The material o f deflection transformers for LF is a good choice.=20 2. Remove the gap of the core, replace it by a minimal gap of one layer of= insulation foil in each leg. This to reduce residual remanent flux from a= bt 180 mT to abt. 30 mT 3. Look to the core as a rectangular "Toroid", at least as an UU-Core (CC-= Core) and spread the primary and secondary over the full perimeter to have= no stray paths. Ore Use two halves of the pri and sec. coils for an UU-Co= re. Or use two deflection cores as an EE-Core with rectangular cross secti= on... 4. the number of turns depends of the magnetic properties of the core mat= erial, not of any AL-value. See the basics in the catalogue of Amidon.com= or amidon.de. (Young Communication engineers lack the art of the calculus= of magnetic circuits...) I Have fed my marconi with an balun on an 61mm t= oroid , n=3D4 50R/200R, 200 Ohm is for the antenna side.=20 5. More details upon request.=20 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 11.05.06 22:50:39 > An: > CC: > Betreff: LF: Transformer idea > Hi Guys, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I came up with an idea for a universal matching transformer based on inf= ormation >=20 > that I got from XKO's and GW4ALG's websites, and before I build it I tho= ught I'd >=20 > ask for your opinions and suggestions. It's for use with a Marconi ante= nna. >=20 > =20 >=20 > The core is a square toroid from a TV horizontal output transformer, mea= suring >=20 > about 3 inches on a side and a cross section of about 1/2 inch or so. A= ll of the >=20 > original windings have been removed and the two C pieces are tightly cla= mped >=20 > together. >=20 > =20 >=20 > My design would have a primary wound on one side of the square consistin= g of >=20 > 10 turns in total, with a tap at 9 turns. The first secondary would be = a single >=20 > winding of 8 turns wound directly over the primary. The second secondar= y is >=20 > different in that it would be 2 quadrafilar turns wound directly over th= e first two >=20 > windings and connected such that there would be taps at 2, 4, 6, and 8 t= urns. >=20 > The two secondary windings would be connected in series aiding, so that = the >=20 > available taps would be 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16 turns. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Depending on tap selection, there would be 10 different turns ratios ava= ilable >=20 > that would, with a 50 ohm input to the primary, give a range of output Z= from >=20 > 32 to 150 ohms. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Are there any flaws with this idea and should I go ahead and build it=3F >=20 > =20 >=20 > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr >=20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. 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