Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b5a49b5a58d179; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:26:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a49b5a58d179; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:26:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgoqW-0003ue-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:25:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgoqV-0003uV-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:25:19 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgoqV-0006y6-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:25:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 22415 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2009 23:25:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236641113; bh=103G12IX/DZqb00BWifqY7bOwVQ+kd29c5jCmPmh1j8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WqazK4sH3FeXZsGdAuI62WC8HF0F7L3ShF8QLXWZMLxwwziWWQEToxSULBtmuFeVoymfop5EDWcx5YEDYt8m9g4DNPyXP4gyG6FhWadkrZGqBXz6M+NlTzpn4rx+pJ3LENdY+hQ0MrJLjQpq1LJYe0L1kdElCUuxTfj365t1RZA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ESVQWEDsiBDWuHizbiIgavnNQzuYy3fvJ6bsqo1kG0rfYgv8HNvz+Gwo0v7kYaX8sZJJdmkIRrjh99Kx/NhSgXqfXilEgi1TGH8/uohuxQXzkytjT5XZNqfSjlITq8lSD4czrUlpZOA5tY50ty24/BSm4JC/oNrBHydtRWh2w7M=; Message-ID: <785420.21340.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: eP5QRYYVM1n5DzMkrJmYRegO94iRPpBS4WuBIL33462_.Ky444iRq42betUZFT.gixjmNzKzXHDxnojVC.K4.UUQ1B4RT2hjeuP9cG9QRdC8jrlBnbX8R3PdlcdaUd27MxxRAZ5wa.aXixft7uALFP8hYPDzDahm.kJiuRXwLFYZ3XjJ_qiVNTsAVxz74oVGSTbhPxq.LZsnq0ppm1pyeYynecLGXgt9FEErr4vmwZilvLvkX045Yryd6.F8GyX7QgdTlTgwBsd9vFtbBio- Received: from [86.143.244.195] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:25:13 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:25:13 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d279.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wolfgang =A0 You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably noticed=20= the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to check=20= the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee. =A0 The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so=A0I will send you the= =A0pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of the URL b= elow.=A0 =A0 I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy saving lam= ps can't be all bad news can they? =A0 Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt. --- On Mon, 9/3/09, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: From: Wolfgang B=FCscher Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM Hi Pete, Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am tempted to build a high-voltage QRP= transmitter from one of these beasts ;-) Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site (in fre= nch language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compatible wi= th an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. Looking a= t the circuit, it seems to make sense: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm Cheers, Wolf=A0 DL4YHF . =20 --0-1383344330-1236641113=:21340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>
Hi Wolfgang
 
You are probably right and thanks for the information. You probably not= iced the "deliberate" mistake in the Diode numbers also ..... remind me to c= heck the spread sheet after I paint and drag a line of data ..hee hee.
 
The reflector doesn't allow very big attachments so I will send yo= u the pictures directly. It looks exactly like the one on the site of t= he URL below. 
 
I am sure that there is a rig in that line up of parts ... energy savin= g lamps can't be all bad news can they?
 
Well thanks for the reply and GL 73 Pete fmt.

--- On Mon, 9/3= /09, Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

From: Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de><= BR>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 7:35 PM

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the 'forensic analysis'. I am=20= tempted to build a high-voltage QRP transmitter from one of these beasts ;-)=

Sure that "DK51" is a unijunction transistor ? I found a french site= (in french language) which seems to say that the DK51 is more or less compa= tible with an MJE13001, which is a 600 Volt, 0.2 A silicon NPN transistor. L= ooking at the circuit, it seems to make sense:

= http://pagesperso-orange.fr/doumai/Clartec_Lampe/Clartec_Lampe_8W.htm
Cheers,
Wolf  DL4YHF .




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