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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Graham, well opds "dBOp" has been calibrated to display SNR on the same "average power" scale as Opera, ie carrier power in 2.5 kHz minus 4 dB. However I concede that opds SNR measurements are not always accurate. Especially with either strong signals, or unstable / incoherent transmissions, the estimate of the carrier power or noise can go wrong by several dB. 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However I = concede that opds SNR measurements are not always accurate. Especially = with either strong signals, or unstable / incoherent transmissions, the = estimate of the carrier power or noise can go wrong by several dB. You mentioned improvements to the decoding algorithm in the latest Opera = version - can you give details? 73, Markus From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 7:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial ... OP32 min as used on 136 KHz , gives ~ -41 dB min , so OP2H=20 should run - 47 , I note Dex reached -48 , which is -54/55 on=20 Marcus's scale Tnx , G, ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CF3B05.C38544C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham,
 
well opds "dBOp" has been calibrated=20 to display SNR on the same "average power" scale as Opera, ie = carrier=20 power in 2.5 kHz minus 4 dB. However=20 I concede that opds SNR measurements are not always=20 accurate. Especially with either strong signals, or = unstable /=20 incoherent transmissions, the estimate of the carrier power or noise can = go=20 wrong by several dB.
 
You mentioned improvements to the = decoding=20 algorithm in the latest Opera version - can you give = details?
 
73, Markus

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 7:19 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: 27.925 is correct dial

...
OP32   min  as used on   136 = KHz   ,=20 gives  ~  -41 dB  min  , so   OP2H =
should=20 run  - 47  , I note  Dex  reached  -48 , which = is =20 -54/55  on
Marcus's  scale

Tnx ,=20 G,


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