Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.23]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-8b744b5eca3b1b4; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:55:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3B33F38000090; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NZj4N-000859-A1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NZj4M-000850-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:50 +0000 Received: from web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([87.248.114.59]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NZj4K-0007CN-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 80440 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jan 2010 10:45:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1264502755; bh=4Y8YfmgiEMbigjR2We0n8hUoUycZz5ssFLprDMqEl60=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bYycPYmwv9n9cP9lZjMjJRuYNWKYf4e6aqf+Zxr6HZB/VcyGhidc8OAoc9KzI2J46z52mHDNUXccyOyXYqxZWl/It+DkyYF60FycB3U6lW+ot9bLXp0UO+D3WxVtPrwYvRXKc9uTQpr3ThpGIDOoSKTWjLnDzPf7FokweXFH9HA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xXFvhRkyh0MSOuvFkYkOhGaVPAp19QmwD7T/rp5xeAsiTv5auLB59gpPyljvrZ/KgXnq6WlqdRvg/00fNo87/ggRLu5c5refo5PpxnUQM9YllzjkFmmCYCNCUvc/cbN/2XQ71lFuUiyVAWBy/kKxQr29IVi+n2bX55D2ek4rkUo=; Message-ID: <760083.80415.qm@web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BAUusp0VM1lxMFI50Tl4h26w7Iy4_jPgW_5Hi.V7bD6gZKFmn2VjGa161z1Py1h.PIozqrtMTGS9UGAa.aYPX4eb0KoKKxouavaaztY_MUbMfMJlhX0wl.G.bXrIOYazqIvMU6ysvCLZ38N.QH_dPS2g5EmqtMGagjesgDL6.8pQ__1tQKZoXC8A2yQHNpIlzbitC4ZOXWgxFxkjhA0hqLpyGicu8RZT.G0PvPdXn_txVE2.fFsrdehxaOTzHaUsUi1w7cLAfE0Zvb.mRaSRGNV084siv5rFGIzPqkAisr7Ettf8BS3DVmm.lOl4ijBSNSPy Received: from [86.134.65.222] by web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:45:55 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4B5EC24A.22190.3F32A6@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:45:55 +0000 (GMT) From: SAM JEWELL To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B5EC24A.22190.3F32A6@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Off topic: MS and EME Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-153953470-1264502755=:80415" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60174b5eca3a429b X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-153953470-1264502755=:80415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike, CW is most definitely used for EME above 432MHz. Although JT65C is very ef= fective on 1.3 and 2.3GHz, CW is still the preferred mode. This is mainly= due to a very strong pro CW attitude amongst many of the EME operators.= Having said that, the level of JT65C on 1.3GHz is VERY high relative to= the number of operators on EME overall. As you have probably seen, quite= small EME systems are capable of making successful QSOs even with low ERP= using this mode.=20 JT4G also works on EME. However, the poorer sensitivity of this mode (comp= ared to JT65C) limits its use to the higher bands where libration can rend= er JT65C unusable. The digital 'cw' mode developed for the 47GHz EME QSOs= is a bit different again and doesn't seem to have caught on to any great= extent. I can't remember its designation! Hellschrieber has also been used in EME. I hope this helps? 73 de Sam, G4DDK ________________________________ From: Mike Dennison To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010 10:22:02 Subject: LF: Off topic: MS and EME Can anyone on this group tell me whether Morse is still used for EME=20 and/or Meteor Scatter enthusiasts, or does all activity now use=20 purpose-designed digital modes? Please reply direct to: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --0-153953470-1264502755=:80415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,
CW is most definitely used for EME above 432MHz. Alt= hough JT65C is very effective on 1.3 and 2.3GHz, CW is still the preferred= mode. This is mainly due to a very strong pro CW attitude amongst many of= the EME operators. Having said that, the level of JT65C on 1.3GHz is VERY= high relative to the number of operators on EME overall. As you have prob= ably seen, quite small EME systems are capable of making successful QSOs= even with low ERP using this mode.
JT4G also works on EME. However,= the poorer sensitivity of this mode (compared to JT65C) limits its use to= the higher bands where libration can render JT65C unusable. The digital= 'cw' mode developed for the 47GHz EME QSOs is a bit different again and= doesn't seem to have caught on to any great extent. I can't remember its designation!
Hellschrieber has also been used in EME.

I hope th= is helps?

73 de Sam, G4DDK




From: Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= Sent: Tuesday, 26 January,= 2010 10:22:02
Subject: LF: Off topic: MS and EME

Can anyone on this group tell me= whether Morse is still used for EME
and/or Meteor Scatter enthusiasts= , or does all activity now use
purpose-designed digital modes?

= Please reply direct to:
mike.dennison@ntlworld.com<= /a>

Mike, G3XDV
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