Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u870H8YP013230 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 02:17:08 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bhQU6-0007vx-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:12:58 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bhQU5-0007vo-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:12:57 +0100 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bhQU3-0006XW-HI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:12:56 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.24]) by mwinf5d39 with ME id gQCl1t00P0XUtMb03QCmee; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:12:52 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:12:52 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.24 Message-ID: <756B8A5F601D4F85922795414760D6A7@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D8201@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D8201@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 01:12:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: c61917eaf8bc8733d7e85540486fff22 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01D208A4.F097BAA0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8692 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01D208A4.F097BAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 100 mW to Ae ? to too much power , still 3 db left ! 73-G, ) 23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn = 1520.0 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test = 1519,6 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio 1519,9 Hz = with 0.1w + MiniWhip From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from = plane to plane :-) Since last night U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop to = GPS calibration So may be the increase in decodes this night is due to a better phase = coherence 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016 11:12 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Ol=E1 Luis, one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we seem to have a = private LF duct between us ;-) 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 pm Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thank you for the phase info Markus Can recall that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 were = phase coherent But my U3 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default = parameters, so probably the park function makes the difference. Will set it and test tonight The other difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only one frame every hour starting at minute 45 Thank you Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to = add a bit more inductance Will be better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for QSO = ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 12:50 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thanks a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice = setup indeed on top of your roof! I believe that the U3 by default does not preserve phase between dashes = (possibly depending on a "park mode" setting but I'm not sure). If you = could make the transmission coherent the opds correlator might gain = another 3 to 4 dB sensitivity. All the best, Markus=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Last night the LF coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 with = just the 100mW from U3 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varias/MF/MF%20and%20= LF%20coils.jpg So far, an Op32 correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-) Who's next ?? ;-) 2016-09-01 04:18:19 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.968Hz 28mHz -42.5dBOp 93% = 15.5dBI have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use as = a support pole whileworking as variable capacitor. I can get the = resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the internalmetallic element of = the vertical antenna. A great aid for remote tunning from shack73 de = LuisEA5DOM ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01D208A4.F097BAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
100 mW  to  Ae ?  to too  much power =  , =20 still  3 db left  !
 
73-G, )
 

23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn = 1520.0 Hz=20 with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test = 1519,6 Hz=20 with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio 1519,9 = Hz with=20 0.1w + MiniWhip

 

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF
 
Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair = path=20 bouncing from plane to plane :-)
 
Since last night U3 transmits continously frame = after frame.=20 No stop to GPS calibration
So may be the increase in decodes this night is = due to a=20 better phase coherence
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus=20 Vester
Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016=20 11:12
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM LF tests

Ol=E1=20 Luis,

one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we = seem to=20 have a private LF duct between us ;-)

73, Markus=20 (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: = VIGILANT Luis=20 Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 = pm
Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thank you for=20 the phase info Markus
 
Can = recall=20 that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 were phase=20 coherent
 
But = my U3=20 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default parameters, so = probably=20 the park function
makes the=20 difference. Will set it and test tonight
 
The = other=20 difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting continously. = Only one=20 frame every hour
starting at=20 minute 45
 
Thank you=20 Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to add a bit = more=20 inductance
Will = be better=20 to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for QSO=20 ;-)
 
73 de=20 Luis
EA5DOM

De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En = nombre de=20 Markus Vester
Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 = 12:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF: EA5DOM=20 LF tests

Thanks=20 a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice setup = indeed=20 on top of your roof!

I believe that the U3 by = default does not=20 preserve phase between dashes (possibly depending on a "park mode" = setting=20 but I'm not sure). If  you could make the transmission=20 coherent the opds correlator might gain another 3 to 4 dB=20 sensitivity.

All the = best,
Markus 

-----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, = 1 Sept=20 2016 11:10 am
Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF
 
Last night the LF coils were = connected=20 and started to transmit Op32 with just the 100mW from = U3
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varia= s/MF/MF%20and%20LF%20coils.jpg
 
So far, an Op32 correlation = decode from=20 Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-)
Who's next ?? = ;-)
2016-09-01 =
04:18:19 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.968Hz  28mHz -42.5dBOp  93% =
15.5dB
I have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic =
antenna I use as a support pole while
working as variable =
capacitor. I can get the resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the =
internal
metallic element of the vertical antenna. A great aid =
for remote tunning from shack
73 de =
Luis
EA5DOM
 
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