Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3DL9L3I017404 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 23:09:21 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aqRyn-0003Jr-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:05:41 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aqRym-0003Ji-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:05:40 +0100 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1aqRyl-00006j-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:05:39 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.80.195]) by mwinf5d20 with ME id hx5a1s00C4CqYuv03x5ait; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 23:05:38 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 23:05:38 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.80.195 Message-ID: <722E29C526764E3A916A5C3B3D0959A3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <570CD871.7020909@posteo.de>,<579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB53B671DD@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB53B67DF9@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB53B67DF9@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:05:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 3d5b8cd6516ff44ac46de53952029be0 Subject: Re: LF: EA in LF soon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01D195D0.9A4E1640" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7701 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01D195D0.9A4E1640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ~ 10 dB better ! 21:02 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -10 dB F:10% in Albir 1498,3 Hz 21:02 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -34 dB F:2% in Montbrio 1499,9 Hz G, =20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:23 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA in LF soon Hi LF=20 First test with 100mW from U3 Iban EB3FRN decoded it in Opera Dynamic at sunrise 05:02 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 dB in Montbrio = 1499,9 Hz Still a lot of room for improvements, but looks like the antenna = performance is as good as MF 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez [luis@vigilant.es] Enviado: martes, 12 de abril de 2016 14:38 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: RE: LF: EA in LF soon Hi Stefan Yet another convincing argument: As isolated coil, it can be covered with a bigger buck to get a step = into VLF ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: martes, 12 de abril de 2016 13:14 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA in LF soon Hi Luis, Am 11.04.2016 19:02, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez:=20 I prefer to set it appart. It is a truncated cone, so would have a = natural tendence to "unwind" just by gravity In the hot summer I would surely find the cable messed down at the = base of the pipe :-) That's a real argument! 73, Stefan ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01D195D0.9A4E1640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
~  10 dB better !

21:02 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -10 dB F:10% in Albir 1498,3 = Hz

21:02 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -34 dB F:2% in Montbrio 1499,9 = Hz

G, 

From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:23 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: EA in LF soon

Hi=20 LF=20

First test with 100mW from U3

Iban EB3FRN decoded it in Opera Dynamic at sunrise

05:02    136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 = dB in=20 Montbrio 1499,9 Hz

Still a lot of room for improvements, but looks like the antenna=20 performance is as good as MF

73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez=20 [luis@vigilant.es]
Enviado: martes, 12 de abril de 2016=20 14:38
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: RE: = LF: EA=20 in LF soon

Hi=20 Stefan
 
Yet=20 another convincing argument:
 
As=20 isolated coil, it can be covered with a bigger = buck to get a step=20 into VLF  ;-)
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de=20 DK7FC
Enviado el: martes, 12 de abril de 2016=20 13:14
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF: EA=20 in LF soon

Hi Luis,

Am 11.04.2016 19:02, schrieb VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez:=20
I prefer to set it appart. It is a truncated = cone, so would=20 have a natural tendence to "unwind" just by = gravity
In the hot summer I would surely find = the cable=20 messed down at the base of the pipe=20 :-)

That's a real = argument!

73,=20 Stefan
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