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[195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ul8si646478wjc.64.2013.12.13.03.31.42 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; dkim=pass header.i=@mx.aol.com Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1VrQnu-0005CI-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:21:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1VrQnt-0005C9-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:21:09 +0000 Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1VrQnr-00080k-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:21:08 +0000 Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 181E87000008E for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 06:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (95-91-238-155-dynip.superkabel.de [95.91.238.155]) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 2F25FE0000A0 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 06:21:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <707D6451372E4AE39EDC95525A89B108@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <004f01cef7de$8b595150$0802a8c0@acer> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:20:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1386933665; bh=CDSIjTZ0ze/A1S75RwLl2pgKnJfZ7a3o7OgRM3cl9Vk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LebnXSW2lBockxP4/mvN5v7AncEn/3XO/pOJBdprI8ATKgmI3EIGyzQ6sMxFgCGN4 Os2cIvEsHjZT5x9KuVNTTdVOkdMbBDtsF+orYeptDUM15po8m5zYNUwNAtsa9Ud4Q3 cVtZjgBGKlTX2H4K/RZB67ZwwRLFE4sHBCEH5vaM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c552aaed9d5e09 X-AOL-IP: 95.91.238.155 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Henny, thanks for this good capture, showing Bob's signal squeezed in between the QRM lines. It's a bit more difficult than Opera because WSPR-15 requires about 0.73 Hz clear bandwidth. We should also note that the "nominal WSPR frequency" seems to be not the center but the lowest of the four tones. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.109.201 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b14bcaca65d4b584f77d02a84d381cb4 Subject: Re: LF: 74614 12-13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CEF7FD.C7F71B50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1976 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CEF7FD.C7F71B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny, thanks for this good capture, showing Bob's signal squeezed in between = the QRM lines. It's a bit more difficult than Opera because WSPR-15 = requires about 0.73 Hz clear bandwidth. We should also note that the = "nominal WSPR frequency" seems to be not the center but the lowest of = the four tones. Unfortunately I didn't get any decodes here. This is not really = surprising, looking at the DCF77 noise patterns on my WSPR-X screen = http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/wsprx_74614Hz_131213_0034.png= =20 which hardly changed during the course of the night. Probably my best bet would be to ask Bob to go to 74603.6 Hz. Then the = tones would sit in a DCF minimum, and also be well above the nearest = Loran line (74603.2804 Hz from Sylt), thus should be pretty clear = everywhere in Holland, the UK, and Germany: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/74604Hz_131213_1100.png Best wishes, Markus (DF6NM) From: henny=20 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:37 AM To: blacksheep=20 Subject: LF: 74614 12-13 Gm Bob,LF The capture, henny cpm 73, ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CEF7FD.C7F71B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henny,
 
thanks for this good capture,=20 showing Bob's signal squeezed in between the QRM = lines. It's a=20 bit more difficult than Opera because WSPR-15 requires about = 0.73 Hz=20 clear bandwidth. We should also note that the "nominal WSPR=20 frequency" seems to be not the center but the lowest of the = four=20 tones.
 
Unfortunately I didn't get any = decodes here.=20 This is not really surprising, looking at the DCF77 noise patterns = on my=20 WSPR-X screen http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/wsprx_74614Hz_13121= 3_0034.png 
which hardly changed during the course = of the=20 night.
 
Probably my best bet would be to ask = Bob to go to=20 74603.6 Hz. Then the tones would sit in a DCF minimum,=20 and also be well above the nearest Loran line (74603.2804 = Hz from=20 Sylt), thus should be pretty clear everywhere in Holland, the UK, and=20 Germany:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/74604Hz_131213_1100.png
 
Best wishes,
Markus = (DF6NM)

From: henny
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: LF: 74614 12-13

Gm Bob,LF
 
The capture,
 
henny cpm
73,
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