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At 12:10 p.m. 30/01/2011, you wrote:
>The traditional method of tuning an LF loading coil is to use a variometer.
>
>I have been investigating methods of tuning coils for mobile use and 
>one method that appeared briefly  in one of the ARRL Handbooks of 
>the 50s was the shorted turn method of tuning.
>
>I tried a home made coil of 136uH on a 5cm diameter former and using 
>a shorted turn of 2mm insulated wire and obtained a tuning range of 
>32uH. (136 - 102uH).
>
>Has anyone out there tried this?
>
>Regards
>
>Peter G3LDO

Hello Peter and the LF fraternity,

I use a large ex-NDB loading coil that can be tapped on any single 
turn. For fine tuning there is a single rotary shorted turn.To 
minimise losses the cross-section of the shorted turn is large [about 
40mm X 10mm] and the whole thing is silver-plated on brass. Although 
I have never bothered to measure the inductance variation it works 
well for transmitting on 180 and 500 kHz. I intend to try it on 136 
kHz over our coming southern hemisphere winter.

Cheers,

Kevin     ZL4MD