Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6S-0001N4-1y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6Q-0001Mv-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: from rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com ([124.108.96.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixg6K-0002Bs-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 75839 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from 124.108.96.73 by rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:54:20 -0800 Received: (qmail 47962 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sooby.xtra.co.nz) (bjhayes@xtra.co.nz@219.88.52.234 with login) by smtp104.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 09:54:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: P3LZPdQVM1mizQkLy4rT0BCKc7gSXFuNaXwzp3XDyJC.swFZuoAKV67aLf3lv7v4YQ-- Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:51:50 +1300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi JB, I remember comments on a similar situation from an old QST. In June 1977, Barry Boothe W9UCW recounts his success. His "Beverage" was half a mile long, on insulators, three barbed wires above and three below, steel poles, and the wire was 18/24 inches above ground. He terminated it by connecting it to the barbed wires at the far end. In fact, it was an out-of-season use for his electric fence - the horses were in the barn for the winter. Barry commented that it worked extra well and was the most directional Beverage he had ever used [on 160m.]. Your proposed wire along the top looks better than Barry's which was half-way down the fence. In passing, his "hot" wire was No.16 galvanised steel. Good luck. 73, Kevin, ZL4MD >My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts >to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a >thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out >of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about >eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? > >The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal >wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced >about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and >it appears to be galvanised steel. There is no intentional grounding of >the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch >the ground. > >Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle