X-GM-THRID: 1246846798684106604 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.2.20 with SMTP id 20cs29115fgb; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr1099049ugj.1189154086940; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 28si1346991ugc.2007.09.07.01.34.41; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=193.82.116.20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ITZC7-0006jZ-0a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:28:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ITZC6-0006jQ-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:28:02 +0100 Received: from mta01.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.254]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ITZBz-0000Kq-P3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:28:02 +0100 Received: from fep04.xtra.co.nz ([172.23.12.41]) by mta01.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20070907082719.ZXMQ3767.mta01.xtra.co.nz@fep04.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +1200 Received: from sooby.xtra.co.nz ([219.88.52.48]) by fep04.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20070907082718.BDHY3831.fep04.xtra.co.nz@sooby.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:27:18 +1200 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070907191758.019b2b98@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:23:18 +1200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: BOG - Beverage on the Ground Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 572 At 01:28 a.m. 7/09/2007, you wrote: >Hi LF gang, > >In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we >discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done >a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well. > >I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields >being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is >attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge >beside the road - I'm in a very rural area. > >Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz? > >John >Gm4SLV Hello John and the LF Group, A few years ago, Robert, VK7ZAL made regular expeditions to a remote site near Hobart in Tasmania and listened for our ZL gang who were transmitting on 181.4 kHz. He ran out a couple of hundred metres or so of insulated wire, over the ground and bushes, pointed towards ZL, and connected to an antenna tuner that fed his receiver. I should also add that the far end was unterminated. Allowing for the wavelength, this short "Beverage" worked very well. I have copies of recordings made by Robert and was surprised by the very good reception at his end [audible CW]. At John's "remote" site I believe that a 200m BOG would be well worth a try on 500kHz. Perhaps I should add that we have not yet achieved any access to the 500 kHz zone in ZL land. However, we have open access, all modes, all the way, from 130 through to 190 Khz. The other good news is that the "power line carriers", radiated from high-voltage power lines, have nearly all gone. In the past, they made some parts of the LF spectrum quite unusable. We just need a few more LF participants. 73, Kevin, ZL4MD