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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, LF I'm recovering this message were you proposed a 1:1 ferrite transformer to isolate the antenna My problem is that the antenna impedance varies a lot with humidity. This days we have a hot and dry weather about 30% moisture. VNA shows an impedance value of just 30Ohms at resonance Previous week [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.201.16.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [85.60.35.36 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] X-Scan-Signature: 64a43ebf6189d3fbac7adf77f3718769 Subject: Re: LF: LF daylight test close to the north hemisphere solstice Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id x5SKKcpm016884 Hi Stefan, LF I'm recovering this message were you proposed a 1:1 ferrite transformer to isolate the antenna My problem is that the antenna impedance varies a lot with humidity. This days we have a hot and dry weather about 30% moisture. VNA shows an impedance value of just 30Ohms at resonance Previous week having sea moisture with 80% values, which are normal here over summer, the impedance rised to 100Ohm at resonance. Of course, PA works in a completely different way in both cases. The best antenna impedance is about 70 Ohm, were I can get 3.2A RF current with 15A@33V PA current Higer impedance causes PA current to rise and RF current drops. Mosfets also get much hotter Low antena impedance produces high RF currents but low PA current and so, less power and higer voltages in the LPF which causes arcs. (LPF is also pending resize. Is the only part still remaining from the old Ropex PA) So, I need a matching transformer, but must be variable and remotely selectable. May be selecting taps with a set of relays or any other mechanical selector. What do you propose for that ? How many turns ? I have a pair of the big blue cores you recommended 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.de] Enviado: miércoles, 5 de junio de 2019 8:16 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: LF daylight test close to the north hemisphere solstice Hi Luis, No, i just mean a second transformer between PA and the other transformer, into the coax line. A simple 1:1 ferrite transformer. Your ground conductors into and arround the building are a part of the antenna, obviously causing a high voltage between that ground and your shack ground. All you can do is reducing the coupling impedance (capacitive) and the electrical field strength. A well dimensioned 1:1 transformer will provide a good decoupling and low losses. The improved decoupling may change the resonance a bit (because your shack earth is less a part of the system taking RF currents), so a retuning is required. Hopefully your shack earth is not the dominant part of the antenna ground :-) The less it is a part of the ground system, the less is the detuning of the antenna when inserting the second transformer. 73, Stefan