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Content preview: Hi MF On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/ 2018-05-21 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-21 00:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-20 23:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-20 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-20 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -24 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-20 23:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 [...] Content analysis details: (0.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.201.16.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.6 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [85.60.35.36 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 59dfa31c87e93cf4a32c8e0c1ddc303c Subject: LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AAA7Cservigilantvigila_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AAA7Cservigilantvigila_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi MF On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac= .jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/ 2018-05-21 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-21 00:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 23:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -24 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 23:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 73 de Luis EA5DOM De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez Enviado el: domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night Hi Pascal, MF Last night we got some spots again 2018-05-20 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-20 01:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-19 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -32 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-19 21:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-19 21:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-19 21:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 2018-05-19 20:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 = 129 I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation between earthquak= es and MF propagation But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this path. It is no= t by brute force and ERP power So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in vertical plane. T= he 90m vertical has probably a very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even more chances t= o get a very flat take off angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four hops instead o= f five, which would be the case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which is under the t= heoretical maximum of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops shows that fi= rst hop would land in south Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the ocean, not far= away from the coast of Kenia That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak signal to reac= h Reunion in the next bounce at decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land on ground and= the extra attenuation may left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know experts opinion 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr= 5dh@hotmail.com] Enviado: s=E1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night Hi MF, I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if t= he recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception here.= Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR: 2018-05-19 02:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783= 129 2018-05-19 01:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw= 8783 129 2018-05-19 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH = LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 01:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 F= R5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn= 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 00:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 = IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 00:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -2= 8 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 00:00 EA5DOM 0.4756= 08 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 23:30 EA5DOM = 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 23:10 EA= 5DOM 0.475608 -20 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 22:= 50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-= 18 22:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 20= 18-05-18 22:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 1= 29 2018-05-18 22:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8= 783 129 2018-05-18 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -23 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG7= 8pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 21:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5D= H LG78pw 8783 129 73, Pascal --_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AAA7Cservigilantvigila_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi MF

 

On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto= -u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/

 

2018-05-21 01:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -31&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129  

2018-05-21 00:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -29&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 23:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 23:40  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129

2018-05-20 23:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -24&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129 

2018-05-20 23:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -29&= nbsp; 0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG7= 8pw  8783  129 

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez
Enviado el: domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

 

Hi Pascal, MF

 

Last night we got some spots again<= /o:p>

 

2018-05-20 01:40  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-20 01:20  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-20 01:00  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-19 23:40  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -32  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-19 21:30  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-19 21:20  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-19 21:00  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  = ;

2018-05-19 20:10  EA5DOM =  0.475608  -31  0  IM98xn  1&n= bsp; FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 =

 

I'm afraid (and really hope) that there = is no correlation between earthquakes and MF propagation<= /p>

 

But really wondering why I'm getting so = good chances in this path. It is not by brute force and ERP power

So, the other possibility is antenna rad= iation pattern in vertical plane. The 90m vertical has probably a

very low radiation pattern. And at sea c= oast that means even more chances to get a very flat take off

angle to FR5. So low that may be I can r= each there with four hops instead of five, which would be the

case for an average antenna with higer r= adiation angle

 

Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2= 196Km per hop. Which is under the theoretical maximum

of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100= Km height

 

Path profile from here to Reunion, provi= ding four 2196Km hops shows that first hop would land in south

Libya desert area, second in Sudan deser= t and third into the ocean, not far away from the coast of Kenia=

That third bouncing in sea water would b= e a bonus for a weak signal to reach Reunion in the next bounce at&nbs= p;

decodable levels. With five shorter hops= the third would land on ground and the extra attenuation may

left no much for a fourth hop to the oce= an and then a five one

 

This are just my thoughts. Would be inte= resting to know experts opinion

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal = Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com]
Enviado: s=E1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

Hi MF,
I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if t= he recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception here.= Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR:


 2018-05-19 02:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28=   0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG= 78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:50  = EA5DOM  0.475608  -26  0  IM98xn&nb= sp; 1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  12= 9  2018-05-19 01:40  EA5DOM  0.475608 &n= bsp;-27  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH &= nbsp;LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:30 = ; EA5DOM  0.475608  -29  0  IM= 98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783 &= nbsp;129  2018-05-19 01:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -26  0&nb= sp; IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  = 8783  129  2018-05-19 00:50  EA5DOM &nbs= p;0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1 =  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  201= 8-05-19 00:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28 &nb= sp;0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw = ; 8783  129  2018-05-19 00:00  EA5DOM&nb= sp; 0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  = 1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 &n= bsp;2018-05-18 23:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0&nb= sp; IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  = 8783  129  2018-05-18 23:10  EA5DOM &nbs= p;0.475608  -20  0  IM98xn  1 =  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  201= 8-05-18 22:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28 &nb= sp;0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw = ; 8783  129  2018-05-18 22:30  EA5DOM&nb= sp; 0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  = 1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 &n= bsp;2018-05-18 22:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0&nb= sp; IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  = 8783  129  2018-05-18 22:10  EA5DOM &nbs= p;0.475608  -27  0  IM98xn  1 =  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  201= 8-05-18 22:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -23 &nb= sp;0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw = ; 8783  129  2018-05-18 21:10  EA5DOM&nb= sp; 0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  = 1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 
73, Pascal



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