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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes 75K is off the end of most Ham sets*** , so that's a problem first off , but there where 17 monitors on the first run , so not that bad ! Once the activity is posted around , there should be more ,taking a look [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: cae871677d7ede791cfb15749bb088ca Subject: Re: LF: 74550 12-10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01CEF5EC.03D2B2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1957 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CEF5EC.03D2B2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=20 75K is off the end of most Ham sets*** , so that's a problem = first off , but there where 17 monitors on the first run , so = not that bad ! Once the activity is posted around , there should be more ,taking = a look=20 At least Op is giving you some band data to work with , its = complimentary to data transmission , the s/n levels are the = 'average' along the time line [65 mins in this case] and the fade pattern is qsb = below the decode set level of -43 dB ,=20 Seems to be more like variable attenuation , not 'skip' ? but odd = nothing showing UK west coast=20 ***One of the $10 usb dongles , running direct-sample with a 75KHz = pre-amp could be a nice simple way in , the gain drops off at = MF, but a pre amp / tuned to 75 would work well , restoring = the gain and preventing 'image' ......... can not quite visualise = what a 75K L/C looks like , but I may have some 100 or 120 KHz = IF transformers in the junk ... 73 - G, =20 From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: 74550 12-10 Conditions have been up and downish for pasted month. Some of the West = coasters not participating. I had received a full solid QRSS 60 decode = last week from a California chap. Have to consider new band needs new = ants and RX equipment as well. Gonna take some time. Would also help = if had some others to transmit but that's the way it goes-too much for = some to bother with. I think it's great results for new band and = all-Bob =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:00:41 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: 74550 12-10 Bob,=20 Yes ..Looks like conditions where bad Sunday night , last night = much better all round ,=20 Big attenuation over land though , at the moment the Fade % is = not uploaded to the psk-data=20 will show on the local copy via the web=20 Nothing out west yet , but may take some time to sort the Rx = out ? Wolf showing with 3 decodes , -42, -40 and -38 over the = pond at 3880 miles =20 and you peaked -9 with K3SIW over 580 miles , =20 73-G, WG4XRS DL-SWL 4000m OPERA 3880 miles 07:50:21=20 WG4XRS K3SIW 4000m OPERA 580 miles 07:50:21=20 WG4XRS KB4OER 4000m OPERA 519 miles 07:50:25=20 VE7BDQ VE7BDQ 4000m OPERA 0 kms 08:39:25=20 KU7Z KU7Z 4000m OPERA 0 miles 08:37:02=20 G0KTN G0KTN 4000m OPERA 0 kms 08:25:23=20 KB4OER KB4OER 4000m OPERA 0 miles 10:40:25=20 PA3FNY PA3FNY 4000m OPERA 0 kms 05:15:49=20 LA4ANA LA4ANA 4000m OPERA 0 kms 05:14:12=20 G4WGT G4WGT 4000m OPERA 0 kms 15:53:15=20 K3SIW K3SIW 4000m OPERA 0 miles 08:50:23=20 WG4XRS WG4XRS 4000m OPERA 0 miles 07:54:35=20 -42 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 06:44 United States 1386657879 WG4XRS FN12LQ = DL-SWL JO52HP -40 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United States 1386642110 WG4XRS FN12LQ = DL-SWL JO52HP -38 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 07:50 United States 1386661821 WG4XRS FN12LQ = DL-SWL JO52HP -24 OPERA 0.073 09/12/2013 23:04 United States 1386630280 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -21 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 00:10 United States 1386634223 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -16 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 01:16 United States 1386638165 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United States 1386642107 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 03:27 United States 1386646050 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -14 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 04:33 United States 1386649994 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -12 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 05:38 United States 1386653936 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -9 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 07:50 United States 1386661821 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW EN52TA -18 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 04:33 United States 1386649996 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -18 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 05:39 United States 1386653942 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United States 1386642114 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 06:44 United States 1386657883 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -14 OPERA 0.073 09/12/2013 23:04 United States 1386630283 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -14 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 03:27 United States 1386646055 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -14 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 07:50 United States 1386661825 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -13 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 01:16 United States 1386638170 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI -12 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 00:10 United States 1386634227 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER EM86UI From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:25 PM To: G .. ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: FW: LF: 74550 12-10 G; Condx looked good according to Henny's capture... =20 From: cpm@planet.nl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:18:19 +0100 Subject: LF: 74550 12-10 Gm Bob,LF Strong signal on 74550 Henny cpm 73, Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden = verzonden: capt38 Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen = virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet = toe. 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Yes
 
75K is  off  the  end  = of =20 most  Ham sets***  , so  that's a  problem  = first =20 off  , but  there  where  17  monitors  on = the  first  run , so  not  that  bad = !
 
Once the  activity  is  = posted =20 around , there  should be  more ,taking  = a  look=20
 
At least  Op is  giving  = you =20 some  band  data  to  work  with , its=20 complimentary to  data transmission    ,  = the =20 s/n  levels  are the  'average'  along = the
time  line  [65 mins  in = this =20 case]  and the  fade pattern  is  qsb  = below =20 the  decode  set  level of     -43 dB = ,=20
 
Seems to  be  more  like = variable =20 attenuation  , not  'skip' ? but  odd  nothing  = showing  UK west  coast
 
***One  of the  $10  usb = dongles ,=20 running  direct-sample  with a  75KHz   = pre-amp =20 could be a  nice  simple  way  in , the  gain=20 drops  off at  MF, but  a  pre amp  = /   tuned=20   to  75  would  work well , restoring  = the  gain=20 and  preventing  'image' ......... can not  quite = visualise =20 what  a  75K  L/C looks like  , but  I  = may =20 have  some  100 or  120 KHz  IF transformers  = in=20 the  junk  ...
 
73 - G,  
 
 

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:19 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: 74550 12-10

Conditions have been up and downish for pasted = month.  Some of=20 the West coasters not participating.  I had received a full solid = QRSS 60=20 decode last week from a California chap.  Have to consider new band = needs=20 new ants and RX equipment as well.  Gonna take some time.  = Would also=20 help if had some others to transmit but that's the way it goes-too much = for some=20 to bother with.  I think it's great results for new band and=20 all-Bob
 
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue,=20 10 Dec 2013 17:00:41 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: 74550 12-10

Bob,
 
Yes  ..Looks  like conditions  where  bad  = Sunday  night , last  night  much  better all
round ,
 
Big  attenuation  over  land  though  , at = the  moment  the  Fade % is not  uploaded to = the =20 psk-data
will  show  on the  local  copy  via  = the  web
 
Nothing  out  west yet , but  may take  = some =20 time  to  sort the  Rx  out ?
 
Wolf  showing  with   3  decodes = ,  =20 -42,  -40  and  -38  over  the  pond  = at=20  3880  miles 
 
and you peaked   -9 with K3SIW  over 580 miles = , =20
 
73-G,
 
 
WG4XRS DL-SWL 4000m OPERA 3880 miles 07:50:21 WG4XRS K3SIW 4000m OPERA 580 miles 07:50:21 WG4XRS KB4OER 4000m OPERA 519 miles 07:50:25 VE7BDQ VE7BDQ 4000m OPERA 0 kms 08:39:25 KU7Z KU7Z 4000m OPERA 0 miles 08:37:02 G0KTN G0KTN 4000m OPERA 0 kms 08:25:23 KB4OER KB4OER 4000m OPERA 0 miles 10:40:25 PA3FNY PA3FNY 4000m OPERA 0 kms 05:15:49 LA4ANA LA4ANA 4000m OPERA 0 kms 05:14:12 G4WGT G4WGT 4000m OPERA 0 kms 15:53:15 K3SIW K3SIW 4000m OPERA 0 miles 08:50:23 WG4XRS WG4XRS 4000m OPERA 0 miles 07:54:35
 
 
 




-42 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 06:44 United States = 1386657879=20 WG4XRS FN12LQ DL-SWL JO52HP
-40 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United = States=20 1386642110 WG4XRS FN12LQ DL-SWL JO52HP
-38 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 = 07:50=20 United States 1386661821 WG4XRS FN12LQ DL-SWL JO52HP
-24 OPERA 0.073=20 09/12/2013 23:04 United States 1386630280 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW = EN52TA
-21=20 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 00:10 United States 1386634223 WG4XRS FN12LQ = K3SIW=20 EN52TA
-16 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 01:16 United States 1386638165 = WG4XRS=20 FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United States = 1386642107=20 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 03:27 United = States=20 1386646050 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-14 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 = 04:33 United=20 States 1386649994 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-12 OPERA 0.073 = 10/12/2013 05:38=20 United States 1386653936 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-9 OPERA 0.073 = 10/12/2013=20 07:50 United States 1386661821 WG4XRS FN12LQ K3SIW EN52TA
-18 OPERA = 0.073=20 10/12/2013 04:33 United States 1386649996 WG4XRS FN12LQ KB4OER = EM86UI
-18=20 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 05:39 United States 1386653942 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER=20 EM86UI
-15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 02:21 United States 1386642114 = WG4XRS=20 FN12LQ KB4OER EM86UI
-15 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 06:44 United States=20 1386657883 WG4XRS FN12LQ KB4OER EM86UI
-14 OPERA 0.073 09/12/2013 = 23:04=20 United States 1386630283 WG4XRS FN12LQ KB4OER EM86UI
-14 OPERA 0.073=20 10/12/2013 03:27 United States 1386646055 WG4XRS FN12LQ KB4OER = EM86UI
-14=20 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 07:50 United States 1386661825 WG4XRS FN12LQ = KB4OER=20 EM86UI
-13 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 01:16 United States 1386638170 = WG4XRS=20 FN12LQ KB4OER EM86UI
-12 OPERA 0.073 10/12/2013 00:10 United States=20 1386634227 WG4XRS FN12LQ KB4OER=20 EM86UI












From: Bob = Raide=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:25 PM
To: G .. ;=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: FW: LF: 74550=20 12-10


G;
Condx looked good according to Henny's=20 capture...
 



From: cpm@planet.nl
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:18:19=20 +0100
Subject: LF: 74550 12-10


Gm Bob,LF
Strong signal = on=20 74550
Henny cpm
73,
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende = bijlagen of=20 koppelingen worden verzonden:
capt38

Opmerking: Sommige=20 e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of=20 ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de=20 beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen = worden=20 afgehandeld.
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