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From: Rik Strobbe Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Hello Wolf, all, my antenna is a 22m long and 11m high "lazy-L" (=3D marconi antenna with to= pload). It is surrounded by many trees, in fact some trees act as support. The loss resistance varies from 70 Ohm in summer to 30 Ohm in winter (if it= is freezing for some days). To that I have to add +/- 5 Ohm variometer loss. Fortunately we have a 5 W EIRP limit on 472kHz, so any losses can be compen= sated by increasing power ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens wolf_dl4yhf [dl4yhf@freenet.de] Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:14 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Hello Andy, Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use her= e at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impres= sive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wi= re length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial sys= tem fully intact) I thought that a resistive component of approx 26 Ohm was= "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials = (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy. Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' type, or vertica= l wire with a lot of topload) are measuring. Have a nice weekend, Wolf DL4YHF . Am 31.01.2014 10:58, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9: Merci Wolf. A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, using a 3 Watts out= put TX. HI. I like very much QRP. The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters, and= the horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is ( 18 - = 560 j ). It needs a 190 =B5H serial coil to resonate. Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI. From: wolf_dl4yhf Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m Merci Andy, SNR during your CQ call was -16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later dropped= to -25 during the QSO. Would have been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-) Now IZ7SLZ and I5EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here. 73, Wolf DL4YHF JO42FD Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9: F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9. 73 de Andy From: F4DTL@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: CQ CQ F4DTL JT9 on 630m Rendez vous at 2100 GMT this evening F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel = malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel ma= lveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active. --- Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection avast! 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Hello Rick !
 
I hope perhaps to meet you to night on JT9 ?
 
Best 73. Andy F6CNI.

Hello Wolf, all,

 

my antenna is a 22m long a= nd 11m high "lazy-L" (=3D marconi antenna with topload).

It is surrounded by many trees, in fact some trees act as support.

The loss resistance varies= from 70 Ohm in summer to 30 Ohm in w= inter (if it is freezing for some= days).

To that I have to add +/- = 5 Ohm variometer loss.

Fortunately we have a 5 W EIRP= limit on 472kHz, so any losses can be compensated by increasing power ;-)

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T=

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens wolf_dl4yhf [dl4yhf@freenet.de]
Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: = LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF.

Hello Andy,

Thanks for the info. That's= a very nice antenna (larger than what I use here at the moment), and a base impeda= nce of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impressive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD i= nto service some years ago (total wire length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above= ground, and with the radial system fully intact) I thought that a resistive= component of approx 26 Ohm was "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and befo= re laying out two new radials (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. q= uite lossy.

Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' ty= pe, or vertical wire with a lot of topload) are measuring.


Have a ni= ce weekend,
  Wolf DL4YHF .




Am 31.01.2014 10:58, sc= hrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9:
Merci Wolf.
 
A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, using = a 3 Watts output TX. HI. I like very much QRP.
 
The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters= , and the horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is ( 18 -= 560 j ). It needs a 190 =B5H serial coil to resonate.
 
Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI.
 
=
 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m
 
=
Merci Andy,
SNR during your CQ call was -= 16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later dropped to -25 during the QSO.
Would ha= ve been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-)

Now IZ7SLZ and I5= EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here.


73,
  Wolf&n= bsp; DL4YHF
  JO42FD


Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb Andr=E9 = Guy=E9:
=
F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9.
 
73 de Andy
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