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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Can only do but try , over 10 dB was quite a margin , may reach inland usa as well now ? vx9bdq is nearly on the east coast on 500 .... which poses the question , is OP8 viable on 500 , taking the qsb pattern is much shorter than 136 .. not been tested as far as I know ? 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Tnx -G.. From: Chris 4X1RF=20 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X G, Stefan, LF, Unfortunately the noise situation here on LF/MF is worse than it used to = be but we should definitely try. QRN is stronger today as there's a = storm approaching. 73s Chris On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Graham wrote: Ok Stefan=20 Yes that was 3 months ago ! I think it came as a surprise to = many 136 operators , that the band was 'open' =20 A OP32 run might decode into the Pacific as well as over the = pole ... as long as no one has stolen Georges mains supply = cables and Laurence's 'pesky protons' are out to lunch :- ) =20 give a few days/nights warning for Rx stations to set up = ........ =20 G.. =20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X Hi G..,=20 Yes, maybe worth to compare! Good idea. Chris/4X1RF: Are you arround here? Do we want to make such a test this = evening? OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 22.10.2012 01:51, schrieb Graham:=20 Not seeing a decode at Haifa ?=20 These where made in July using OP8 , all round 10 dB over = the OP32 min decode level , would be interesting to repeat now = that winter has (ish) arrived , to see what the path attenuation = has changed by ? G.. 20/7/2012=20 4X1RF Haifa KM72LS: 02:20 136 DK7FC Op8 -32 dB 02:00 136 DK7FC Op8 -28 dB 01:52 136 DK7FC Op8 -28 dB 01:44 136 DK7FC Op8 -30 dB 01:35 136 DK7FC Op8 -30 dB 01:11 136 DK7FC Op8 -31 dB 00:54 136 DK7FC Op8 -32 dB 00:23 136 DK7FC Op8 -32 dB *********** 20/07/2012 *********** =20 23:08 136 DK7FC Op8 -30 dB 22:16 136 DK7FC Op8 -30 dB 20:46 136 DK7FC Op8 -32 dB *********** 19/07/2012 *********** =20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:21 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: WSPR on LF, tnx for reports Thanks to DF6MK, DF6NM, DJ7KA, F4DTL, F59706, F5WK, G0KTN, G4CAO, = G6AVK, G8HUH, GW3UCJ, IK1HSS, LA4ANA, LA5VNA, M0PAF, PI4THT, RN3AGC, = RX3DHR, SM2DJK, TF3HZ, UW8SM, YO/4X1RF for the WSPR reports this = afternoon/evening on 137.43 kHz :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01CDB08F.A7426290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can  only  do  but  try  ,   = over =20 10 dB  was  quite a  margin , may  reach = inland =20 usa  as  well  now ?
 
vx9bdq  is  nearly  on the  east coast  on = 500   ....  which  poses  the  = question =20 ,  is  OP8   viable on 500  , taking  = the =20 qsb  pattern is much  shorter than 136 = ..    =20 not  been  tested as  far as  I  know ?
 
Tnx -G..

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X

G, Stefan, LF,

Unfortunately the noise situation = here on=20 LF/MF is worse than it used to be but we should definitely try. QRN is = stronger=20 today as there's a storm = approaching.


73s
Chris


On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Ok Stefan
 
Yes  that  was   3 months  ago ! I = think =20 it  came  as a  surprise  to many  136 =20 operators  , that  the  band was  'open'  =
 
A  OP32  run might  decode  into the=20 Pacific   as  well  as over the pole  ... as=20 long  as   no one has  stolen =20 Georges    mains   supply  cables =20 and  Laurence's   'pesky protons'   are  = out=20 to  lunch  :- )  
 
give a  few  days/nights   warning  = for =20 Rx  stations  to  set  up ........  
 
G.. 
 

From: Stefan=20 Sch=E4fer
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X

Hi G..,

Yes, maybe worth to compare! Good=20 idea.
Chris/4X1RF: Are you arround here? Do we want to make such a = test=20 this evening? OP8 vs. WSPR in 4X?

73, = Stefan/DK7FC


Am=20 22.10.2012 01:51, schrieb Graham:=20
Not seeing  a  decode  at  Haifa ?
 
These  where  made  in  July  = using  OP8=20 ,  all  round   10 dB over the  OP32 =20 min  decode  level  , would  be  = interesting =20 to  repeat  now that  winter  has  (ish) = arrived ,=20 to see  what  the  path  attenuation has changed = by=20 ?
 
G..
 
 
20/7/2012

 4X1RF Haifa KM72LS:

02:20    = 136 DK7FC=20 Op8 -32 dB
02:00    136 DK7FC Op8 -28=20 dB
01:52    136 DK7FC Op8 -28=20 dB
01:44    136 DK7FC Op8 -30=20 dB
01:35    136 DK7FC Op8 -30=20 dB
01:11    136 DK7FC Op8 -31=20 dB
00:54    136 DK7FC Op8 -32=20 dB
00:23    136 DK7FC Op8 -32 = dB
   =20 ***********  20/07/2012  *********** 
23:08    136 DK7FC Op8 -30=20 dB
22:16    136 DK7FC Op8 -30=20 dB
20:46    136 DK7FC Op8 -32 = dB
   =20 ***********  19/07/2012  *********** 


Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:21 AM
Subject: LF: WSPR on LF, tnx for = reports

Thanks to DF6MK, DF6NM, DJ7KA, F4DTL, F59706, F5WK, = G0KTN,=20 G4CAO, G6AVK, G8HUH, GW3UCJ, IK1HSS, LA4ANA, LA5VNA, M0PAF, PI4THT, = RN3AGC,=20 RX3DHR, SM2DJK, TF3HZ, UW8SM, YO/4X1RF  for the WSPR reports = this=20 afternoon/evening on 137.43 kHz :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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