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From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:36:53 +0100
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Subject: Re: VLF: more RX stns needed
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Hi Stefan,
our distance is 357km,
henny cpm
best 73s
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:01 AM
  Subject: AW: VLF: more RX stns needed


  Henny, thank you! That's nice. Your RX stn is very good on LF and i=
 am sure you will also have a good VLF RX :-)
  What is our distance? I think less than 400km!?
  Let's dream :-)
  73, Stefan

  PS: The next time i think it is a good idea to transmit a "K" in DFC=
W-600. That's a combination out of a long carrier and a real informati=
on and a good mode for first dx tests. Since i transmit DFCW without=
 gaps between dash and dot it will take exactly 30 minutes, further in=
formation. After that secqence, the full callsign and a message in DFC=
W-60 might be an idea... Let's see...

  PPS: Our radio club has a long friendship with the radio amateurs in=
 bar le duc, france. There, near verdun, we stay each year (for me sin=
ce 10 years) and participate on the VHF contest but also some acty on=
 HF. This year i plan to be qrv as F/DK7FC on LF and maybe also on VLF=
 (if there is still interest ;-) ). It is always the first fully weeke=
nd in september. Last year i was active with a J-antenna on 160m, so=
 a vertical end fed half wave antenna, 82m long, 100m up. No nerving=
 radials, no lossy matching coil. The transformer is a RG58 cable, abt=
 28m long, surely with some losses but it must be less than 3db since=
 i apply 600W (here in DL) without any SWR-changes.
  So, the kite took the 82m wire PLUS the 28m RG58, without problems!=
 And the wind was not too strong. The best thing about this story is=
 that i have put this antenna into the sky on saturday afternoon and,=
 since 160m is rather interesting at night, have let it there until i=
 was tired and go to bed/marquee. Since i was to tired and it was dark=
 i just let the kite at the sky! And, in the morning, it was still on=
 the sky! If it would have dropped once, it would never go up again si=
nce there were trees that cause turbolences... I put it down in the af=
ternoon, after 24hours!
  So, what this tells us here, discussing VLF, is, that it is often no=
 problem to be QRV with the kite without watching it the whole time an=
d have to be afraid that it comes down. So DFCW-600 is no problem, if=
 the wind comes from south-west. That's my observation on this QTH. So=
 i will choose a good time for the next test, just like at the last...
  That it get's not boring just to transmit there, all those german (o=
r other) stns who have received the signal should come with a bottle=
 of wine and so on, to have a big party,hi ;-) You know the exact QTH!=
 :-))


  73, Stefan/DK7FC


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  Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von henny van els=
t
  Gesendet: Do 18.03.2010 23:12
  An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Betreff: Re: VLF: more RX stns needed


  Hi Stefan,
  I am also standby on 8,9khz
  henny pa3cpm
  best 73s


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Stefan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>our distance is 357km,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Henny, th=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is our distance? I=
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  400km!?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's dream :-)</FONT></D=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73, Stefan</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS: The next time i think=
 it is a good=20
  idea to transmit a "K" in DFCW-600. That's a combination out of a lo=
ng carrier=20
  and a real information and a good mode for first dx tests. Since i=
 transmit=20
  DFCW without gaps between dash and dot it will take exactly 30 minut=
es,=20
  further information. After that secqence, the full callsign and a me=
ssage in=20
  DFCW-60 might be an idea... Let's see...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PPS: Our radio club has=
 a long friendship=20
  with the radio amateurs in <EM>bar le duc</EM>, france. There, near=
=20
  verdun,&nbsp;we stay each year (for me since 10 years) and participa=
te on the=20
  VHF contest but also some acty on HF. This year i plan to be qrv as=
 F/DK7FC on=20
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ways the=20
  first fully weekend in september. Last year i was active with a J-an=
tenna on=20
  160m, so a vertical end fed half wave antenna, 82m long, 100m up. No=
 nerving=20
  radials, no lossy matching coil. The transformer is a RG58 cable, ab=
t 28m=20
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 apply 600W=20
  (here in DL) without any SWR-changes.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, the kite took the 82m=
 wire PLUS the=20
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  about this story is that i have put this antenna into the sky on sat=
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  afternoon and, since 160m is rather interesting at night, have let=
 it there=20
  until i was tired and go to bed/marquee. Since i was to tired and it=
 was dark=20
  i just let the kite at the sky! And, in the morning, it was still on=
 the sky!=20
  If it would have dropped once, it would never go up again since ther=
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  trees that cause turbolences... I put it down in the afternoon, afte=
r=20
  24hours!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, what this tells us he=
re, discussing=20
  VLF, is, that it is often no problem to be QRV with the kite without=
 watching=20
  it the whole time and have to be afraid that it comes down. So DFCW-=
600 is no=20
  problem, if the wind comes from south-west. That's my observation on=
 this QTH.=20
  So i will choose a good time for the next test, just like at the=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That it get's not boring=
 just to transmit=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>Von:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
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  Auftrag von henny van elst<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Do 18.03.2010=20
  23:12<BR><B>An:</B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B>=
 Re: VLF:=20
  more RX stns needed<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Stefan,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am also standby on 8,9khz</FONT><=
/DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73s</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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