Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.137]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC052-a9684ba3540e1ac; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:38:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-me01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2DA313800008B; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NsZZl-0004r7-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:37:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NsZZk-0004qy-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NsZZi-0003As-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:37:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6A859CF85CA14F5591C7EEF4DBE10D48@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <4BA25218.7040905@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B74@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:36:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2010 10:37:05.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E563E00:01CAC750] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: more RX stns needed Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01CAC758.792863A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60894ba3540d3fc6 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CAC758.792863A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, our distance is 357km, henny cpm best 73s ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: AW: VLF: more RX stns needed Henny, thank you! That's nice. Your RX stn is very good on LF and i= am sure you will also have a good VLF RX :-) What is our distance? I think less than 400km!? Let's dream :-) 73, Stefan PS: The next time i think it is a good idea to transmit a "K" in DFC= W-600. That's a combination out of a long carrier and a real informati= on and a good mode for first dx tests. Since i transmit DFCW without= gaps between dash and dot it will take exactly 30 minutes, further in= formation. After that secqence, the full callsign and a message in DFC= W-60 might be an idea... Let's see... PPS: Our radio club has a long friendship with the radio amateurs in= bar le duc, france. There, near verdun, we stay each year (for me sin= ce 10 years) and participate on the VHF contest but also some acty on= HF. This year i plan to be qrv as F/DK7FC on LF and maybe also on VLF= (if there is still interest ;-) ). It is always the first fully weeke= nd in september. Last year i was active with a J-antenna on 160m, so= a vertical end fed half wave antenna, 82m long, 100m up. No nerving= radials, no lossy matching coil. The transformer is a RG58 cable, abt= 28m long, surely with some losses but it must be less than 3db since= i apply 600W (here in DL) without any SWR-changes. So, the kite took the 82m wire PLUS the 28m RG58, without problems!= And the wind was not too strong. The best thing about this story is= that i have put this antenna into the sky on saturday afternoon and,= since 160m is rather interesting at night, have let it there until i= was tired and go to bed/marquee. Since i was to tired and it was dark= i just let the kite at the sky! And, in the morning, it was still on= the sky! If it would have dropped once, it would never go up again si= nce there were trees that cause turbolences... I put it down in the af= ternoon, after 24hours! So, what this tells us here, discussing VLF, is, that it is often no= problem to be QRV with the kite without watching it the whole time an= d have to be afraid that it comes down. So DFCW-600 is no problem, if= the wind comes from south-west. That's my observation on this QTH. So= i will choose a good time for the next test, just like at the last... That it get's not boring just to transmit there, all those german (o= r other) stns who have received the signal should come with a bottle= of wine and so on, to have a big party,hi ;-) You know the exact QTH!= :-)) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von henny van els= t Gesendet: Do 18.03.2010 23:12 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: VLF: more RX stns needed Hi Stefan, I am also standby on 8,9khz henny pa3cpm best 73s ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2755 - Release Date: 03/1= 8/10 19:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CAC758.792863A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan,
our distance is 357km,
henny cpm
best 73s
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010= 10:01=20 AM
Subject: AW: VLF: more RX stn= s=20 needed

Henny, th= ank you! That's=20 nice. Your RX stn is very good on LF and i am sure you will also hav= e a good=20 VLF RX :-)
What is our distance? I= think less than=20 400km!?
Let's dream :-)
73, Stefan
 
PS: The next time i think= it is a good=20 idea to transmit a "K" in DFCW-600. That's a combination out of a lo= ng carrier=20 and a real information and a good mode for first dx tests. Since i= transmit=20 DFCW without gaps between dash and dot it will take exactly 30 minut= es,=20 further information. After that secqence, the full callsign and a me= ssage in=20 DFCW-60 might be an idea... Let's see...
 
PPS: Our radio club has= a long friendship=20 with the radio amateurs in bar le duc, france. There, near= =20 verdun, we stay each year (for me since 10 years) and participa= te on the=20 VHF contest but also some acty on HF. This year i plan to be qrv as= F/DK7FC on=20 LF and maybe also on VLF (if there is still interest ;-) ). It is al= ways the=20 first fully weekend in september. Last year i was active with a J-an= tenna on=20 160m, so a vertical end fed half wave antenna, 82m long, 100m up. No= nerving=20 radials, no lossy matching coil. The transformer is a RG58 cable, ab= t 28m=20 long, surely with some losses but it must be less than 3db since i= apply 600W=20 (here in DL) without any SWR-changes.
So, the kite took the 82m= wire PLUS the=20 28m RG58, without problems! And the wind was not too strong. The bes= t thing=20 about this story is that i have put this antenna into the sky on sat= urday=20 afternoon and, since 160m is rather interesting at night, have let= it there=20 until i was tired and go to bed/marquee. Since i was to tired and it= was dark=20 i just let the kite at the sky! And, in the morning, it was still on= the sky!=20 If it would have dropped once, it would never go up again since ther= e were=20 trees that cause turbolences... I put it down in the afternoon, afte= r=20 24hours!
So, what this tells us he= re, discussing=20 VLF, is, that it is often no problem to be QRV with the kite without= watching=20 it the whole time and have to be afraid that it comes down. So DFCW-= 600 is no=20 problem, if the wind comes from south-west. That's my observation on= this QTH.=20 So i will choose a good time for the next test, just like at the=20 last...
That it get's not boring= just to transmit=20 there, all those german (or other) stns who have received the signal= should=20 come with a bottle of wine and so on, to have a big party,hi ;-= ) You know=20 the exact QTH! :-))
 
 
73, Stefan/DK7FC

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org im=20 Auftrag von henny van elst
Gesendet: Do 18.03.2010=20 23:12
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff:= Re: VLF:=20 more RX stns needed

Hi Stefan,
I am also standby on 8,9khz<= /DIV>
henny pa3cpm
best 73s


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